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评论来自
Clashen
Since it has only dropped 3 times out of 1607 in Black Morass it's most likely wrong data.
评论来自
zappa
There have been occurrences of multiple set pieces dropping from alternate bosses, I for one have witnessed 2 hunter pieces dropping from a single boss, one not on their loot table.
I wouldn't bank on the odds, but stranger things have happened.
评论来自
23066
8 runs and no tunic for me yet, rogue :(
评论来自
20463
I'm exhalted with COT and this tunic never even dropped b4.... is it really true it drops at BM???
评论来自
vipergtsrz
Has anyone gotten this to drop off of Pathaleon the Calculator recently? I've gone on about 30 runs now and it still hasn't dropped once. I started at Sha'tar Friendly, and I am not Exalted. I've only done Mech runs and I haven't seen them once. Please Confirm!
评论来自
33153
28 agility is .7% crit at 70
I know this is important for crit rogues when comparing items.
评论来自
41043
the drop rate is not 13.4% fuckd up i did this run over 30times, 2-3 times a day for a month. :) and till this moment i just finished mechnar a minute ago, and still didnt drop. maybe the drop rate should be lowered to 8%
评论来自
47390
I've ran Mechanar so many times I'm nearly exalted on both of my 70's and have never seen this drop. My rogue is at a count of upwards of 30 without this dropping. =/
评论来自
47688
Odd, First run I got my Tunic. Confirmed drop.
评论来自
27171
You can save yourself a lot of trouble and simply run Blood Furnace (non-heroic) to get Vest of Vengeance:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24396
The difference, going from Assa to Vengeance, is +11 hit, -3 stam, -1 agi, -12 stam, a yellow instead of a red socket, and no setbonus. It's a 1 AEP upgrade, not counting the set bonus.
评论来自
Sylent
I am 60+ runs into this place, (exalted plus revered) rep or so, and still havent seen it drop. It is my personal mission in life to get this chest piece as its my 4th piece for my set bonus. If it werent for it being my final piece i would've given up a looooong time ago.
评论来自
38711
I actually prefer chestguard of no remorse from the first boss in steamvaults.
评论来自
55256
If you're still using the Chestguard of No Remorse at lvl 70 then you need an upgrade. Ask yourself this... do you see any of your leet lvl 70 rogues on your server still sportin' the Chestguard of No Remorse? Probably not and it's because they sure as hell know through experience that the Tunic of Assassination is more versatile.
There is no IF. The Chestguard of No Remorse IS a lvl 68 item and the Tunic of Assassination can ONLY be acquired at lvl 70. That is a fact and if you're sitting there saying "if" then you obviously haven't done the instances to get these items and it proves you aren't legitimate enough to give an opinion.
At lvl 68 or 69 then No Remorse would serve it's purpose but when you hit lvl 70 then there are plenty of chests you should be aiming for including the Tunic.
BTW, most rogues at lvl 70 will be stacking AP so they'll be using Bright Living Rubies upping the AP to +24 adding that to the +dodge and +armor. I don't see many rogues stacking crit over ap and furthermore stacking stam for PvE but this is always debatable because it really depends on your spec.
As far as dodge goes... it depends what you're referring to. Dodge is VERY important for PvP and not so much PvE. So, that's just another moment you prove your inexperience.
Agil is always the priority stat to stack and that's why Blizz makes Agil for rogues apply to 4 stats (ap, dodge, crit, and armor).
Anyway, suit yourself if you want to stick with No Remorse at lvl 70. Every rogue on your server that's lvl 70 is probably like... "been there done that" and has their Chestguard of No Remorse sitting in their bank just like myself. I'm an item set collector and I'm working on getting the entire "Blue Rogue" set and the Assassination set. So, far I have 3 of both sets but the Liar's Cord and No Remorse don't get that much attention from me but my Cowl of the Guiltless gets some playtime every now and then. I'd rather wear a 2-piece Assass with set bonus and Socrethar's Girdle or General's Belt.
In case you don't know what I mean by "Blue Rogue."
Part of the blue rogue t2 reskin. No set bonus.
-Head-Cowl of the Guiltless-
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28206
-Shoulders-Mantle of the Unforgiven-
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27831
-Chest-Chestguard of No Remorse-
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27787
-Bracers- Armwraps of Disdain-
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27765
-Gloves-Gloves of the Unbound-
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28396
-Belt-Liar's Cord-
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28124
-Pants-Leggings of the Unrepentant-
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27514
-Boots-Boots of the Unjust-
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27867
Once again...
Tunic of Assassination>Hauberk of Karabor>Chestguard of No Remorse (even the Chestguard of the Darkstalker is in the same league as No Remorse and requires lvl 69 to equip.)
Username - Krizzone
Faction - Horde
Race - Undead
Realm - Anub'arak
(check my profile if you want but I have about 4 different item sets that I switch on a daily basis depending on what I'm doing)
Example: I have Mennu's Legs, Assassination Legs, Nomad's Legs, Fel Leather legs, Retainer's Legs and so on. I think I have some gizmo on my head right now so I really avg about 1575 AP 200 Hit and 30% Crit for PvE.....for PvP - 1500 AP 110 Hit 29% Crit and 240 Resil.
评论来自
65764
but in your own post you show that crit is greater on the ToA (41agi/39agi >1%) then the CnR(21cr/22cr < 1%) that increases the dps significantly, and you your self said dodge isn't on the scale fo importance, well then you must be playing a PvE rogue where Stamina isn't worth that much either. Your not suppose to be getting hit remember?
Your socket choices sucked, oif you don't care about dodge then put 3 * 8 agi gem's in there now your rocking 49agi and 103ap and your CnR starts to look crappy.
How about these gems:
glinting noble topaz: +4 hit and +4 agi (red/yellow)
inscribed noble topaz: +4 crit and +4agi (red/yellow)
Jagged Talasite: +4 crit and +6sta(yellow/blue)
Shifting Nightseye: +4agi and +6sta(red/blue)
with those gems and a hatred for the +4 dodge Socket Bonus(not on the scale of importance) you can get alot of interesting combinations:
+12 agi and +`18 sta(this one scores you the +dodge rating and beats CnR in Stamina OMG)
+12 crit and +12 agi(out crits CnR big time)
+12 crit and +19 sta(yeah more HPs and look my crits are higher then CnR)
or my personal favorite
+12 hit and +12 agi (+hit adds more damage per point then +crit any day, just don't get the cool crit effects)
The reason the ToA outdoes the CnR is because ToA is versatile and any rogue with about 80g(less or more by server, friend, and professions) can make what they want out of it.
Add in any 1 of the other 4 really nice gear pieces and you get 160 Haste rating everytime you CS or KS! (thats approximately 15% speed increase for 6 seconds) that means you 1.8 speed daggers just became 1.5 speed daggers and instead of 3 hits in 6 seconds you just scored 4 hits in 6 seconds per daggers. I don't know about you but for 6 seconds my white DPS went up by 25%? continue on to the fact that my usually grind is CS>Mutilate>KS>Mutilate>envenom Dead, I stay inside that buff almost the entire combat.
Now heres the kicker take a look at
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24396
and tell me that doesn't almost out do the ToA.
评论来自
krisdl
I just got this chest, I did so many runs of Mechanar that I hate the place, I have many friends help me do runs, both heroic and normal, it fell tonight on the worst heroic run I have ever done, cost about 60 gold in repairs!!! But it was worth it I have this before
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24396
and then I got this
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25838
but the poster above is correct the vest Of vengence is close, but not close enough when your lvl 70 and doing raids, your expected to have the best gear for your class and this is the best pre raid gear I think, maybe I am wrong, if so please tell me.
评论来自
83463
I´m using 2x16ap and 8ap 6 stamina. even though the stamina doesnt contribute too my dps it does help.. a dead dps is a poor dps. keep that in mind, its a fine line (: gifv new chest btw! my last blue : /
btw, the 8ap, 6 sta gem also gives me the gem bonus, which always is nice. you arent in raids alll the time..
评论来自
28506
Does anybody know why is this tunic much worse than
Wastewalker Tunic
even though ilvl is the same :s
评论来自
21986
Compared to
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25838
(Warden's Hauberk):
+43 ap
-0.3% crit
-90 health
That's ignoring sockets because they both have 3 sockets. Given the set bonus on top of this it is still a pretty decent upgrade if you can get it, but the Warden's Hauberk is surprisingly close for something you easy pick up and wear in your low 60s. You don't even have to wait for it to drop.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Stupid bugged door.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Been trying to get these for a while :(
Bugged elevator is making it even MORE frustrating!
*cry*
Edited, Mar 14th 2007 1:49am by Fartspray
评论来自
Allakhazam
Great chest piece, this + shoulders are good keepers from asassination set. Wearing 2 of this set and 2 of the wastewalker is great. Haste from this, S&D, and BF make you attack hella fast (1.3 speed offhand w/ combat potency, all those speed effects stacked the offhand attack speed is just over 0.7, 15 energy regen like you wouldn't believe).
评论来自
Allakhazam
I still think it's amazing how some druids choose to go "DPS" at endgame, especially considering how many true DPS classes there are and how little damage a "DPS" druid does in comparison. A druid must choose between tanking or healing considering the limited number of players who play those rolls at endgame, and druids that play those roles usually are pretty damn good at them too. If a druid honestly believes he needs to have the assassination gear, then he's a noob druid and should never have made it level 70 in the first place.
评论来自
Allakhazam
took a great many runs to get both my shoulders and then this tunic for my 2 piece bonus, but let me tell you a little something about the bonus... it's amazing; well worth the effort. it may not seem like much by itself, but when you stack it with slice and dice, blade flurry, and the abacus of violent odds (which also drops off pathaleon) you're talking about a 50% speed increase which is only going to get faster come patch 2.0.7 with the buff on speed per point of haste.
ALSO, fyi, for the time being the haste will proc when you use kidney shot EVEN IF the mob is immune to stuns. if it is immune, you gain the haste proc, but do not lose any combo points and can immediately use another finishing move after global cooldown. for some reason, i expect to see this changed some time in the future.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dropped first time I went there. Trinket dropped also but let a friend (fury warrior) have it.
评论来自
Thottbot
i have seen a lot of droods with this set
but everyone knows that if a rogue is in the group they should DEFINETLY have first priority on it
评论来自
Thottbot
The set is for rogues, the bonuses are for rogues! Druids don't have cheap shot, kidney shot or eviscerate... so I think that if there is a rogue in your group who needs this you should let him get it.
评论来自
Thottbot
There are better pre-raid pieces out there statwise. Pretty much the only reason you would want this chest is for the very nice set bonus. I like feral druids, I really do (Leader of the Pack <3), but there are only two reasons for a druid to roll on this piece.
1) There is no rogue in the party or the rogue doesn't want it.
2) The druid is an idiot and needs to be shot in the muzzle repeatedly.
For you feral types see:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=59115
评论来自
Thottbot
Wastewalker set is perhaps better in overall stats without compromising the set bonus that rogues need. I mean get real about it the 4 piece bonus of this set is the juice whether you raid or pvp ( evisc for only 25 energy now thats something especially if you re combat with surprise attacks talent.
Lets just face it: Many people are just unaware of the game itemization so they are ready to jump on whatever item lands first on their feet. This happens especially to hybrid classes that consider themselves suited to wear absolutely anything just because they can. Needless to say to the noob druids that wrote posts here that they are entitled to cash in their epic chips for a balance a feral and a healing kit of T4 and T5. Now correct me if I am wrong but rogues only have one set tier 4 and one set tier 5. We dont get combat tiers and pvp tiers and God knows what tiers. Learn to use the websites and get informed then you wont be laughed at for what you roll on.
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm a druid and I use 2 pieces of this set (Don't worry there wasn't any rogues in my party I didn't ninja from) just they were a decent upgrade from the greens I was wearing at the time being
the old rogue set used to be pretty much better for druids than rogues thank god they finally fixed that by adding AP instead of Strength
like old set used to give +agi +str +stam
which didn't help a rogue as much as a druid since druids get +2 AP from str AND talent bonus of 20% increased strength...
yar it's a rogue item (but of course that's obvious due to the set bonus :) )
评论来自
Thottbot
Probably because its the 5th best dps chest piece in the game for Druids thus far. If a Rogue was in the grp i'd let him have it tho, obviously :)
评论来自
Thottbot
i strongly agree druids get to roll need if rogue in party doesnt need it
评论来自
Thottbot
The set is meant for rogues. If there's a rogue in the group that needs it, they get priority..plain and simple.
评论来自
Thottbot
seriously if a druid rolled against a rogue for ANY of this set he should be dragged violently by the toenails down a bumpy road, wtf doesnt blizz wake up and make class restricted items to keep greedy clueless idiots that obviosuly dont know their own class from screwing rogues out of an item so decidedly designed around the class that special ed kids would know the difference? *rant off*
评论来自
Thottbot
To back up previously mentioned points; this set
IS
geared more towards a Rogue than us Feral Druids, however it isn't to say these peices are completely useless to Druids. Infact this couldn't be more untrue.
Take way the added set bonuses and look at the armor for what it is and ask yourself if you would still roll need on this you Rogues out there. If your answer is yes then perhaps you should spare a thought for your fellow DPS class who share the same stat needs as you do. Fair enough if the Druid is Restoration, Balance or even tank spec, but otherwise just give a little consideration to those Druids out there just looking to get by.
Rogues will always have priority here, its just the way it is. Though there are no rules set in stone, if your a Rogue willing to take the risk of sharing a roll with a Feral Druid then more power to you.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ya, I'm a 70 rogue I've got 2 pieces of my set...went to Mech a Drood was like grats to me, I rolled need then he rolled need. He won and told me "Better luck next time ;)" If you are a druid and EVER do this, I hope they put something in the game so we can find where you live! That's MESSED UP!
评论来自
Thottbot
A druid that rolls for this should be shot in the face with a potato gun. Twice. Keep off my blues, stupid bears!
评论来自
Thottbot
I am a feral druid.
No druid should roll against a rogue for this set, EVER, and nor would I roll against a hybrid/resto/balance druid on Moonglade; the bonuses are so much better for them than me.
However, we reserve the right to roll for items that would benefit us, if it doesn't upset someone it's intended for.
Just a couple of points to note, just so you understand why we might benefit from pieces of this set:
1. Agi is added to our Kitty AP
2. Agi contributes to crit, armour, and dodge
3. When we're tanking, we can't block, we can't parry - we only have dodge and armour - Agility is a crucial stat for us.
4. Oh, and you might have noticed that Wastewalker is mostly found in heroic instances - not an amazingly bright idea from Blizz given that it gets all you nice rogues worried that we'll take "your" set.
So, please understand, this piece is beneficial to Druids too, but it is INTENDED for rogues.
评论来自
Thottbot
Dude. 5th best dps chest in the game. Best you can get pre Kharazan. I'd snag it myself.
However.
I would never roll against a rogue. Ever.
...
Then again, I'd never group with a rogue if I was on a run for this.
评论来自
Thottbot
this chest is also insanely good for a hunter got one on mine and i'd never thing of replacing it with the hunter set chest
although any hunter who takes this chest from a rogue does indeed deserve to be shot... multiple times... in very painful places...
评论来自
Thottbot
<Sigh> Dropped for me today... warrior with 70 blue plate took it. It gets better: he sticks spell damage gems in it. DONT GROUP WITH THAGIZUL
~Kaidos, 70 Rogue - Silvermoon
评论来自
Thottbot
To all the Druids saying -
I'd like to have this item, But I would
Never
roll against a Rogue that needs em.
Keep it Real.
----------------------
To all the Druids saying -
Druids have much more use for this set (or certain pieces) than Rogues do.
You Fail.
----------------------
If there's no Rogue, take it, I agree, you can use it. However, rolling against another Rogue in need of it... There hasn't been a patch giving Druids Cheap Shot, Kidney Shot, or Eviscerate. End of story.
-Renz
评论来自
Thottbot
i got this on my 3rd run of the place, its not hard
i had more trouble getting a decent grp for Shadow Labyrinth for the assassination legs off Murmur.
this is a superb chestpiece, i stacked mine with stamina gems and put +150 health on it, which benefited me at the time.
then i got my netherblade chestpiece (tier 4), its not rly tht gr8 tbh.
chestguard of the conniver, which i later got from karazhan, is much better than t4 chestpiece.....
anyway this is a good item regardless what gems and enchants are on it.
评论来自
Thottbot
Well unfortunately i was in a run where this piece had dropped for me and a druid was in my group. He said he needed this piece and he was going to roll against me for it. I told him wtf do u have cheapshot or evis. I need this item and i should get it. He didnt care and rolled need and won the piece....i was so pissed and will never run a instance again with a druid if a set piece drops there.
评论来自
Thottbot
OK, every thread has its full-share of 'who should roll' on an item. But I'm interested in any takedown advice or tactics for getting the item itself. Boss any trouble? Thanks~
评论来自
Thottbot
whats with the lame socket bonus?
needs +hit instead of dodge imo..
评论来自
Thottbot
i hate trying to get this set cuz the duids on smolderthorn think that its druid gear and always win it.... and kick rogues out of the group just so they can have this gear all for themselves... and when they rogues and druids are in the instance together druids dont give priority evan if the rogues needs it.... so SCREW YOU druids! for needing rogue gear..... and how hard is it to look at the set bonuses?
评论来自
Thottbot
eh took me 7 runs on my rogue.not to bad i guess
评论来自
Thottbot
been farming this half way to exalted it finally dropped, then ofc it gets ninjad by a Drood! 70 rogue, Kultiras
评论来自
Thottbot
what gems are best for this for a combat fists Rogue?
评论来自
Thottbot
druids need to gtfo
评论来自
Thottbot
Really annoys me when i see a druid with any of the assas set on, they dont need it!
Was just in a mecha when this dropped from Pathaelon, Druid goes " that is mine, your chest piece is well beter than mine is!"
"Yeah, but its a rogue set, you dont have cheap shot or kidney punch, nevermind eviserate and envenom"
"im still gonna need it"
"Ninja..."
then guess who won, me!, i laughed in his face and he was like "cry cry cry" hehe
Now whenever i see him i make sure i ./rasp =]
Never ninja this from a rogue.. it will come back to haunt you.. >.<
Uyladta, Lvl70 Nightelf Rogue
Hellfire
评论来自
Thottbot
i was so damn pissed i needed and the fin druid needed on it to and he won it i almost had the damn full set until his needy a** took it, tis total bs its for a ROGUE
评论来自
Thottbot
i had it taken from me by an enchanter when he knew i needed it. Then to piss me off he d/e that #$%^& on the god damn spot.
评论来自
Thottbot
i honestly just think rogues have first dibs on this in a group between the two. If the rogue doesn't need it, all yours ferals, but honestly WHY do I see more druids with assassination armor than rogues?
评论来自
Thottbot
to manie dumb ass druids take this set for them shelfes cuz their ferral some lame excuse
评论来自
Thottbot
this dropped on only my 3rd run, and i was the only 1 who could get it, i was so happy :)
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