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评论来自
824970
This will probably be the staff Blizz talked about that could shapeshift you into Staghelm's fire cat druid form.
评论来自
Nulgar
Renamed again, this is now "Fandral's Flamescythe", confirming even more that this is supposed to be the staff that drops from former Archdruid Fandral Staghelm, now
in the
火焰之地
.
Still missing in the tooltip are:
Equip: While in Cat Form,
transforms the wielder into a molten cat
.
Class: Druid
评论来自
blowtorch
@Revisen, afaik, it only transforms you into fire cat form if you are a feral druid.
评论来自
88457
This weapon is called Fandral's Flaming Spire on the mmo-champ DB at the moment so this is looking more likely.
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69897/fandrals-flaming-spire/
评论来自
Shampane
When a druid has this equipped and enters combat, their cat form changes into a fire cat.
评论来自
mewse
Here is a screenshot of the flaming cat form, from the PTR:
http://i.imgur.com/DTeD3.jpg
评论来自
withmyrice
Obviously a hunter weapon.
评论来自
chrth
Dear Druids:
We will make you a deal. If you don't buy the
仇恨长矛
from the AH or roll for it when it drops off of trash, we will not roll on
范达尔的烈焰镰刀
.
Love,
Hunters
评论来自
goreblade
dis weepon is 4 hunters
评论来自
Stomped
This staff is hot.
评论来自
Kazlehoff
You know whats gonna REALLY make feral DPS kittys sad?
Bis Feral tanks.
Sorry 'bout that.
评论来自
778895
Unless you are of the AHAA (Association of Hunters Around Azeroth) you do not necessarily have the right to represent
all
hunters, and the druid equivilant: ADAA, for druids, Yes Druids and Hunters are easy to play, yes they do seem to get buffed often, but so have every class, For all you QQ'ers out there, there is no real "King Class" that totally dominates, the only time a class dominates is when someone who knows what they're doing is playing it. Now back to the "Scythe" in question. It is a Druid-only staff that does transform you into, in my opinion, the ultra-cool Fire-Kitty
WHEN
in Cat form, no other time. Also, a parting thought: if you really want to get into a heated argument over a staff that is completely awesome and relatively hard to get for most players that are not full-time raiders, do it on the actual wow site where people actually fall for stupid trolls without wanting to post on the topic anyway.-.-
评论来自
Smoka
This item dropped for us tonight and I noticed a few things about it:
First of all, the buff is only present while in combat and only if you are default attacking. If I use swipe without default attacking, there is no fire form.
Second, the staff seems to have a hidden /use effect that triggers the
烈焰德鲁伊
out of combat. Cooldown is 2 hours but buff lasts until you shift out of the form. What fun would it be if you couldn't show it off around town?
Its also worth noting that anyone using
幻觉药水
can steal the buff and run around as a fire cat themselves. Druid + .
幻觉药水
+
迅捷飞行形态
= Flying Fire Kitty!
评论来自
667699
Really too bad that it doesn't work in flight forms. WTB Phoenix form.
评论来自
683852
I want to shed some light on the "hunter vs. druid weapon" debate. My raiding character is a survival hunter, but I'm also actively playing a feral druid, as for what bias I may have.
Here are some likely scenarios, and my thoughts about who should have the staff:
Both feral druid and hunter wielding older weapon
Obvious druid priority. Druids benefit from the weapon DPS, hunter's don't, it's a much better upgrade for druids.
Feral druid wielding
仇恨长矛
, hunter wielding older weapon
In terms of DPS, there is an obvious hunter priority here. Druid would mostly just change haste to mastery (which stat is better for a feral druid is debatable, but the general consensus is that the difference is small) and get a cosmetic upgrade, hunter would benefit a lot from the stats.
However, many druids want this item purely for the looks (just like many hunters want certain pets for looks), if you're a hunter who find yourself in this scenario, you got an older weapon while the druid got the
仇恨长矛
, but badly wants
范达尔的烈焰镰刀
, you got an excellent opportunity to make a friend.
Feral druid and hunter both wielding
仇恨长矛
Updated, I underestimated
Item - Hunter T12 4P Bonus
, new simulations show that haste becomes a much better stat for survival hunters with this bonus.
Survival hunters need very specific haste ratings, or their DPS is significantly affected. They want to reach certain plateaus, and currently the only achievable plateau is at roughly 757 haste rating (the next is at roughly 4148 haste rating). Any haste rating between haste plateaus is almost completely wasted. It is difficult to find good items without haste for hunters, this weapon is close to a must for not bypassing 757 haste, which makes this weapon pretty much BiS for survival hunters.
In terms of DPS, survival hunters would
most likely
benefit more than druids in this scenario. Personally I would let the druid have the staff because it would probably make one very happy druid, yet I would not condemn any survival hunter who would roll on the staff.
If survival hunters don't have
Item - Hunter T11 4P Bonus
and not
Item - Hunter T12 4P Bonus
, then 757 haste is optimal.
Item - Hunter T11 4P Bonus
already push Cobra Shot past the 1.67 sec cast barrier and
Item - Hunter T12 4P Bonus
makes haste a significantly better stat. Hence it's only survival hunters who got neither of these bonuses (when I first wrote this post I was in this situation, a bit tunnel vision for you there) that would benefit more from the
范达尔的烈焰镰刀
than
仇恨长矛
.
Beast Mastery and Marksmen hunters also got haste plateaus, but those specs are more forgiving on not reaching a certain haste plateau (in fact, their haste rating is highly fluctuating, due to
强化稳固射击
and
集中火力
, and they may get
狩猎小队
/
强化冰冷之爪
/
风怒图腾
from other players, survival hunter haste is constant). Unlike survival hunters, these hunter specs can reach other haste plateaus, and such hunters should let the druid have the staff first.
Addendum:
Who should have the staff first depends on what they already got
I'm baffled to read that people still comment that "druids should have the staff first because they benefit from the damage, hunters don't". It is correct that hunters don't benefit from the damage, but they do benefit from the stats, and if a druid already got
仇恨长矛
then changing to
范达尔的烈焰镰刀
would only be a change in secondary stats, the DPS and primary stats (agility, stamina) are exactly the same.
So speaking from a strictly raid DPS point of view, you can't say "druids should have priority", it depends on what the druid and the hunter already got.
Since someone mentioned rogues/warriors rolling on ranged weapons, it is the same there:
If a hunter got
熔岩之矢十字弓
and
喷焰强弩
drops, a rogue with a 346/359 item level ranged weapon would benefit more than the hunter, if both got a 378 item level ranged weapon then it depends on which of them will benefit more from the stats. If both got 346/359 item level ranged weapon, hunter would benefit from the ranged damage while rogues would not, and it would be a better upgrade for the hunter.
A warrior should in general never roll on a ranged weapon with agility, unless they either don't have a ranged weapon or the one they got is really, really bad.
评论来自
150773
I have learned the following regarding the Buff from this staff, "Druid of the Flames."
While under the effects of the 'use' buff, entering and exiting combat cancels your buff, and the staff has a 2 hr cooldown on the 'use' effect. Don't swipe the random critters.
Shifting out of catform while under the effect of the 'use' buff keeps the buff on you for at least
10 minutes
, 1 hour, the longest I have tested so far. It was retained through my hearthstone and a portal.
More to come as I learn it.
EDIT 1: It appears as long as you don't enter and exit combat, the 'use' buff remains indefinitely. It has survived logging out over night
in catform.
评论来自
426611
Thundercats
Firecats HO!
评论来自
Cariea
Four screenshots of flaming cats, zero screenshots of the actual weapon.
What does it look like, anyways?
评论来自
375396
Looks more like a trident
评论来自
274624
FYI: For those of you saying the stats are the same for both hunters and druids:
YOU ARE WRONG. Feral dmg is based off of weapon dmg. Hunter damage is unaffected by thier melee weapons dps, only thier ranged weapon slot. So thats an entire category of difference. If you are upgrading from heroic Malevolence, its 703.6 dps to 744.1
Its just a stat stick for hunters. For druids, its a direct increase in damage. Those of you comparing a rogue rolling on a bow vs a hunter have it right. This is druid comes first, hunter second.
Second: A couple of you are really messed up on how bears work. For a feral tank the best secondary stats on a weapon are Mastery then Crit. Flamescythe is the bear tanks BIS. Ironic, considering bears can't be fiery. The Ranseur is a distant second. Haste is completely worthless for a bear, even reforged, thats half of secondary stat slot that is completely worthless. Also, crit is secondary to mastery... Flamescythe = big win.
评论来自
Andygorus
I wish this would alter our flight form as well (or wish anything would).
Many people enjoy all their different mounts, and while druids can use them just the same, our flight form never visually changes.
WTB Phoenix Flight Form.
评论来自
AveryZan
If only my Panther Cub Turned into a mini fire cat with me!
评论来自
298971
I made a list of gimmick items which you can use to transform your character into a different form or race or even gender to play around with. I didn't add items like weapons that provide a procc with a transform effect that only lasts a few seconds even though I know about them. My intention was to list all items with controlable transformations. Feel free to let me know if I missed an item!
I want to thank all the people below my lists who pointed out items I missed! This list grows thanks to your effort as well! Thanks guys, you're great!
Item Name:
Transforms you into:
Duration:
Cooldown:
范达尔的烈焰镰刀
Molten cat while in cat form (Druids only)
Til shifting out of form
-
Molten cat while in cat form (Druids only)
Til shifting out of form
2s
毁伤雕文
Any human you pickpocket (Rogues only)
5m
-
奥术弹幕雕文
Anyone else (Mages only)
2m
30m
莱雅娜的坠饰
Druid of the Flame
5m
1h
卡莱莎的魂萦坠饰
Ghostly female Highborne
30m
15m
上古之神的祝福
Qiraj
20s
10m
布尔吉·黑心的时装帽
Gostly pirate gnome
Til unequipping the item
-
辛多雷宝珠
Blood elf
5m
30m
欺诈宝珠
Race of opponent faction
5m
30m
扭曲骸骨
Male Naga
20s
10m
亚口鱼油
Voodoo gnome
10m
-
深石之油
Stony appearance
Til cancelled
1s
熊怪变形棒
Furbolg
3m
1h
食人魔玩偶
Red Ogre
10m
10m
魔法食人魔玩偶
Red Ogre
5m
30m
美味风蛇
Ninja or pirate
60m
-
诺格弗格药剂
Skeleton
10m
-
戈多克食人魔装
Ogre
10m
-
超级猴子球
Gorilla in a bubble
5m
1h
铁靴烈酒
Iron Dwarf
10m
1h
穆拉丁的礼物
Frost Dwarf
10m
30m
时沙之瓶
Sandstone Drake
Til cancelled
-
夜翼之心
Obsidian Nightwing
Til cancelled
-
幻觉药水
Someone else
2m
-
冬幕伪装包
Snowman
Til cancelled
-
巨龙之怒,泰蕾苟萨的寄魂杖
Blue dragon
Til cancelled
-
黑铁烈酒
Dark Iron Dwarf
Til cancelled
-
小精灵护符
Wisp
20s
10m
迷失雕像
Arakkoa
5m
30m
生命恩赐之种
Random herb
Til cancelled
-
狂心美酒
Wolvar
5m
30m
钓鱼大师鱼钩
Fish
Til cancelled
-
噬魔鱼
Basilisk, locust, whelp, or whisp
1m
1s
下水道药剂
Wasp, Tuskarr
10m
-
Moonfang the wolf
10m
1h
新月仪式之书
Giant wolf
2m
10m
新月仪式之书
Black wolf
2m
10m
新月仪式之书
Red wolf
2m
10m
新月仪式之书
White wolf
2m
10m
黑色雏龙宝珠
Black whelp
15m
-
褪色的巫师帽
Apprentice of a different race (Horde only)
30m
30m
奥金利斧
Guitarist of the Tauren Chieftains
10s
1m
奥金利斧(新)
Guitarist of the Tauren Chieftains
10s
1m
维库饮水角
Bigger and with saronite helm
10m
1s
Gives you a wolf helmet
10m
1h
Stony appearance
10m
1h
Like a targeted player when using
10m
1h
Mister Smite
30m
2h
Makes you nearly invisible
10m
1h
Doctor Theolen Krastinov
30m
2h
Beach Clothes
30m
2h
Mogu stature
5m
2h
Forest Sprite
10m
10m
恶魔猎手的守护
Demon Hunter
5m
30m
Panda cub
10m
-
Skeleton mariner
10m
2h
Ordon Fire-Watcher
Til cancelled
1h
Celestial Defender
15m
2h
The following items you cannot get anymore. Only to complete the list.
Item Name:
Transforms you into:
Duration:
Cooldown:
诺莫瑞根的荣耀
Gnomeregan Infantry (Alliance only)
30m
4h
暗矛的荣耀
Darkspear Warrior (Horde only)
30m
4h
附有魔法的月虎披风
Moonstalker
5m
-
鱼人服装
Murloc costume
Til cancelled
-
达图尔的变形魔棒
Furbolg
3m
1m
评论来自
Veratus
So, I finally got this on my feral today, and of course the /use effect looks amazing!
But the 2hr cooldown seems a bit harsh when compared to the other vanity items.
评论来自
dracula
How it works:
Whenever you enter combat you will gain the aura
Druid of the Flames
; whenever you leave combat you will lose the aura.
Besides that, once every 2 hour you can manually activate the aura by right-clicking the staff. It will last indefinitely
until you enter and leave combat again
, and you can freely shapeshift around, but it only has any visual effect in Cat form.
评论来自
pabob
Well... im a bear, its BiS for me (excluding the heroic version obviously) And from what i hear the Ransuar is acually BiS for a mm hunter atm... me and a hunter in my guild have already made a deal, he had a ransaur, i get the staggy staff i dont udnerstand why a hunter would want it, maybe after a few weeks a hunter could get it, but.. omg.. gear your tanks and healers first... ive already won the staff, im just waiting for it to drop.
评论来自
Losna
The actual buff associated with this staff is
烈焰德鲁伊
. This buff seems to be governed by some odd rules. There are two (really, 3) different ways to get the buff, and they each follow different rules.
1a. Combat Method
Go into combat (in any form) with
范达尔的烈焰镰刀
equipped. You will keep this buff in any form (including caster form) until you leave combat, but the Fire Cat graphic will only show when you are in Cat Form.
What will remove the buff:
Leaving Combat
Dying
Right-clicking off the buff
What will NOT remove the buff:
Changing Forms
Changing Weapons (!)
1b. Combat/Zoning Method
This is an extension of the Combat Method and it is arguably the "best" out of the three versions of the buff. If you zone out of a battleground or instance with the Combat Method Buff (Method 1a) active, you will keep this version of the buff. In general, it's better not to leave a LFG group in combat or AFKing out of a BG, as can hurt the group you're leaving. Kirkus's method below is the more polite method to get this buff.
(Thank you for the correction, Kirkus!)
What will remove the buff:
Entering, then Leaving Combat
Dying
Right-clicking off the buff
What will NOT remove the buff:
Changing Forms
Changing Weapons (!)
Time
2. Use Effect Method
There is hidden /use effect on the Flamescythe. The Flamescythe's use effect has a 2 hour cooldown, and can be used outside of combat. The graphic still only shows when you are in Cat Form.
What will remove the buff:
Entering, then Leaving Combat
Dying
Right-clicking off the buff
Changing Weapons
What will NOT remove the buff:
Changing Forms
Time
NOTE:
There is one thing you should note in these mechanics that is particularly interesting. Changing weapons while in combat lets you keep the combat version of the Buff. This means that even if you upgrade to something other than this staff (Say, in 4.3 or even the next expansion), you can still keep your Fire Cat form. All you have to do is enter combat with the Flamescythe equipped, then switch to your better weapon (at the cost of 1 GCD), and you'll keep the Fire Cat buff for the duration of the encounter.
Flaming Ferals Forever!
评论来自
Rtucci
The fire cat form should've been saved for the druid legendary. And I want to see a fire boomkin and a big ass tree form forest fire.
评论来自
865139
Hmmm, do we really need to argue this?
This is a DRUID weapon. I don't care about stats, dps increase, druids vs hunters, etc.,blah, blah, blah... Blizzard created this weapon for Druids, hence why you get the pretty fiery kitty form.
And to those who b!tch that it's just a vanity form; or that it doesn't increase dps, etc.... ummm, I take it those people only, ever use one mount? And don't have pages upon pages of mounts in their books? Haha, fat chance. Yes, it's a vanity piece! For druids! You want fiery kitty form, stop b!tching, roll a druid... jump into a raid and take your best shot at obtaining this special staff.
In the meantime, Hunters, go to your local Auction House, type in search "Ranseur of Hatred" and buy to your hearts' content.
If the staff drops in your group with a Druid... Kitty comes first. If not, then I guess you have something to show off in Stormwind in the meantime (but not pretty fiery kitty form :-P), but no, a hunter should never roll for this over a Druid. Enough said.
~Desired
评论来自
Qoko
Haha, can you imagine. Since 4.2 I rerolled from my rogue to my druid, and currently I run in bear feral ms and balance offspec. Yesterday our guild had guildfirst kill on Staghelm, and in this fight I was playing moonkin. The staff drops, and with the lack of hunters and other druids in the raid I roll offspec on this and loot it.
Funny thing is, new I am as druid, I was not aware of this staff's pwnage. Only about two hours of Ragnaros fights and Molten Front dailies on my rogue later I find out about this staff's passive and use effect. Not less happy than any other feral druid, just a tad bit more surprised.
评论来自
Psychowolf
Note that Fandral is itemized 5 secondary points higher than Ranseur, making it better in general.
276+265 = 541 for Fandral
282+254 = 536 for Ranseur
All this being said, there's 4 scenarios that can occur with both a hunter and druid in a group, and what would be better overall for the group:
1) Both Druid and Hunter have an MH weapon <ilvl 372: Druid gets weapon, no questions asked.
2) Hunter has Ranseur and Druid has lower ilvl MH item: Druid gets weapon, no questions asked. DPS weapon > stat stuck
3) Druid has Ranseur and Hunter has lower ilvl MH item: Hunter should get this weapon with no questions asked. Druid gain is minimal while hunter gets a decent stat boost.
4) Both Druid and Hunter have a Ranseur: Roll off. The gain would be almost exactly even for either class.
Also having both a Feral Druid and Hunter mains (Technically my main raid character now is a Hunter but I still play my Druid and mained him BC, WotLK, and early Cata until my raid needed another ranged DPS, hunter in particular and we had too many melee), I believe Fandrals is the better item overall for either class.
And I also believe a Druid should get Ranseur over a Hunter on first drop, Hunter get the Fandral if a second Ranseur doesn't drop.
评论来自
Kazlehoff
Alright! time for a comment that doesn't involve hunter vs druid!
Enchants don't look right on this weapon.
+130 agil doesn't rotate with the staff head.... leaving 4 green dots surrounding the head of the staff.
i'll put a screen in showing the enchant weirdness.
评论来自
Thanetor
Now here's the question. If you transmogrify your staff into this staff, do you get fire cat form while not equipping the staff, but having the model?
Before you argue that "It's an equip", it does not show with the equip, but instead, is an invisible bonus. Similar to the Hood of the Malefic (Warlock T6) that occasionally pops out demonic wings. It does not show as an equip effect, but rather, is invisible like the feral fire cat.
Therefore, the Hood of the Malefic wings are part of the animation, does that mean that Fandral's Flamescythe is also part of the animation?
EDIT: Judging from the Blizzcon interviews, no, you won't.
评论来自
Hourglass
The fire kitty look is hot (sorry, had to)...I wonder if Blizzard would consider making a companion pet with that model? Like the Wintersaber Cub or Nightsaber Cub, but flamed.
评论来自
Chromite
As of 8/30/11, you can't sustain the buff by leaving a BG with it on you :(
评论来自
Goats
I just got this as a resto druid. Luckily for me, my guild isn't filled with "huntards". Win!
评论来自
738950
Actually, Ransuer has higher weap dps, and technically is like a 2dps increase from this staff. But the vanity will last a lifetime. As someone who's played since classic, I know I will keep this forever.
评论来自
172622
This is not a scythe.
评论来自
Knewl
Another easy and interesting way to get and keep this buff, without quitting Battlegrounds or Dungeons:
1 Take the Hyjal portal (at
The Eastern Earthshrine
)
2 Paw-punch the nearby
elemental
3 Run bak at the portal!
4
Profit
评论来自
WebDev
Would be awesome to have Flame forms for all the druids forms. At least for the main ones, not including swimming form for example.
I mean, Flame Bear, Flame Moonkin and Flame Tree of Life.
I feel it's kinda not fair that best feral tanking weapon has no visual effect on them.
评论来自
Achloryn
It should be noted that simply entering combat with this item equipped will NOT shift you into fire-cat form. You have to actually single-target melee attack something. (Even swipe spamming in trash won't set you ablaze). Took me a while to discover this for myself, as i'm usually a tank.
评论来自
847809
To all hunters: Ferals get better benefits from this than you, plus a supercool firecat form. So let the Druids get this. :) and the hidden effect is for DRUIDS not hunters, blizz should make this for this item :
Classes: Druid
评论来自
aggixx
I didn't see anyone mention this, so I figured I would:
The fire kitty form is not invocable in any way, shape, or form for non-druids. If this weapon is going to get sharded you can't use it for vanity (unless you want the normal model for transmog, etc).
评论来自
180619
Here's a note if it wasn't mentioned already, if someone uses a Potion of Illusion next to a druid using the buff Druid of the Flames, the imbiber will also turn into a feral druid of the flames. =)
评论来自
912341
Warning: Do not wear this staff in pvp.
I repeat, do not wear this staff in pvp. Doing so will alert the enemy when within 5 meters due the feel of a smothering heat in the back, and will trigger him to attack you.
You have been warned...
评论来自
270768
I have tested the transmog deal with this staff, and here's my results:
Fandral's sythe into something else = fire cat
something else into fandral's sythe = no fire cat
to clarify: only the original staff, changed or not, will give the fire cat
评论来自
913054
Since patch 4.3 the buff gotten from this weapon has been changed, all versions of the buff are now lost when you change zone or relog so you can't go into combat and leave bg/instance to keep it and if you click on the weapon and get that buff then use a portal to another city or if you relog to a different character the buff is removed the second you go offline.
bit of a shame them doing this really a nerf of a completely cosmetic fun item that wasn't really affecting anyone else? no-one got anything from this change to the buff just took away a little fun that druids had with it to themselves.
评论来自
brandmire
Did anyone ever truly clarify that if you transmog anything into this staff you would be able to get the fire cat form? It seems such a waste for such a wicked use effect to be forever worthless
评论来自
zknm7
When this finally dropped, our hunter and feral druid got in an argument over who should get it.... I'm the raid leader for our raid group, and an arms warrior besides.... I decided that since mastery/crit are an arms warrior's best stats, that I would just take it and settle the argument for them. They didn't like it, but hey, I'm the raid leader, so too bad! YEAH!
评论来自
abbabetzalel
Afk'ing out of a BG does not keep the effect as if you /used it.
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1,428 - 2,143伤害
速度 2.40
(每秒伤害743.96)
+408 敏捷
+611 耐力
+265精通
耐久: 120 / 120
需要等级 85
装备:爆击等级提高276点。
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我们用 Wowhead 客户端保证数据库的及时更新,向您提供额外的有趣的功能!
两大目的:
您可以用它追踪完成的任务、配方、坐骑、伙伴宠物以及头衔!
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