all i wanna know is do any other pally recommend this ranged attack ?
Where is holy shock rank 1? I have never learned it and I only have the option to learn rank 2 at 48, but there is no rank 1 to learn? Anyone else have this problem?
Is Holy Shock: Rank 2 learnt from a trainer or gotten from the talent tree?
Listen. You have to get it from the Holy talent tree by spending 30 points in Holy. This is then considered "Rank 1." There after you can learn ranks 2 and 3 from trainers as you continue to level. And yes I would recommend it highly. Even if it's not the greatest attack it makes for a great last second instant heal
Saaconse lvl 60 pally Dragonblight
Mana reduced. I don't recall a difference with the previous patch. It was promised. It is already and always a spell with a '30 seconds' cooldown. This and that and again that other.
Make the range 30", or 40" to concurr with Holy light, bury if necessary for balance sake, the added healing effect 'option', this is a shock. Holy Paladins are shockers, not clerics or priests.
Now I would be pleased when I will get it, otherwise it makes us, holy paladins, the poor parents of the priest. (without a fear immunity spell, or real talent for it, not even going here into an obvious class ability)
The spell rocks otherwise.
1.damn cooldown! i hate the fact that i have to w8 for 30sec to use it again , blizz should have do it like 15 sec .
2.u get the 3rank of holy shock at lvl 56 so it aint right. many of classes get there good "spells" at lvl 60 and much more powerful so i hope at the next patch we will get a new rank with much more dmg and less cooldown
I have a 22 mage on the horde side, and some Paladin (at least lvl 40+, he had a mount) saw me in Hillsbrad and chased me from HB Feilds all the way to Tarren Mill. He didn't even hit me once. Just popped on a mana sheild and kept blinking and frost nova-ing (suprsingly he was rooted once). What i'm trying to get at is, I would've been dead if he had a ranged attack. Rank 1 would've easily takin out half my health. So this will probably be a great benefit for Pallys against people who are masters at kiting from a battle. I would suggest getting it. Prusuit of justice is OK but it will take a while for you to catch up with them (depending the class and if they have speed potion). And hammer of justice (if that's what it's called) would be a better move if you wanted to finish someone off. Also, this would be a wonderful way to pull a small bit of a mob at a time. Instead of running into it.
Once I realized how talents actually work (at lvl 42, duh!), I had to go unlearn and learn them all over again, just to make sure I get my Holy Shock asap. I am loving this spell! A 30 sec. cooldown generally lets you hit the same mob/player more than once in a battle; combined with Divine Favor, it deals around 360-400 dmg. Sweet deal.
I used to hate it when ppl I am fighting in PvP keep running away from me (especially Shammies for some reason) while doing ranged damage, but guess what - now I have something to get them with. I (lvl 42 Pala) beat a lvl 47 Troll Shaman yesterday 1 on 1 in PvP easy (also, this duel helped me realize how poor Shaman's self-healing actually is). I was surprised with myself!
Holy Shock might be good but its uselesss against rogues getting hit 200+ each attack while just spamming SoR? Ull be dead before u can use the 3rd one.Ull need some volleys of dmg lik CS.
Any palli worth his salt should be able to rape a rogue. If you think about it, paladins are the perfect class to take rogues in pvp.
1) Plate armour! Your crazy rogue DPS is not that amazing when 50% of it is ignored now is it?
2) Ret aura. Even if you are not a ret palli, this will shred the HP of any rogue you are fighting.
3) Self-healing. "Oh noes! I am down to 1/2 health!" One holy light brings you back up to full in 2.5 seconds. Rogues cannot compete with this.
4) Consecration. Half the time you can catch them with this, breaking stealth so that they loose their massive ambush crit.
5) Perception/stoneskin. (alli pallis only.) Both two awesome anti-rogue abilities. Better stealth detection for humans, and 8 second poinson/bleed/disease immunity for dwarves.
6) Holy shock/repentence/avenger's shield. Save this for when the rogue has popped sprint to run in fear from you. Each talent tree has a way of finishing that pesky rogue off as he tries to flee. Hammer of Wrath finishes them off if your first spell didn't. (Repentence doesn't actually deal damage, but it lets you get close and crusader strike, and judge justice to break sprint so they can't flee anymore.)
7) Bubble. Ok, so maybe the rogue got the drop on you and is stun locking you. Bubble out of it and start laying the beat down.
Rogue killing aside, on the note of holy shock, it makes for a very good instant cast heal, especially if the MT is about to die, this can keep him alive for long enough that someone else's healing spell just might have time to take effect and heal them up by a large amount. Although Holy shock won't heal for a lot, the fact that it is an instant cast gives pallis our only instant heal other than LoH.
really now thats not even close to what is going to happen...stunlock if you bubble out of a stunlock just to unload "dmg" on the rogue you will die. "Bubble,stun bom bom bom rogue down to 23% evasion vs a good pally, or simply sprint/vanish vs a %^&*ty one. when bubble is out vanish/blind/sprint(sap) bandage and just completly destroy the paladin, 2.5 sec heals....wounding poison+kick/gouge/ks
to easily countered.
ez mode win?
1:cs+hemo/sinister/backstab End with expose+gouge run away and enter stealth...
2: Stealth+Sprint cs+hemo/sinister/backstab etc. gouge...ks end his life
Edit : Oh and btw sorry if you were talking about a rogue who just rightclick you and autohit your pro strategy might work.
Hate it when people try to describe how they beat different classes..in 99% of the case, it's not going to turn out the way you all describe it.
all 60 exept 2 warrior and a rogue wich is 70...
No lvling isen't an issue got the first to 70 in 4 days others took longer.
but every class CAN beat all the other classes just that some have advantages
EZ MODE CLASSES.
Shadow : priest
Btw things have changed in tbc so i would have to add..
Frost mage..great fun ez mode as hell vs probably most classes only trouble if you ask me is a warlock though not that hard tbh, or maybe a really good AND good geared daggger rogue.
Frostnova : icelance icelance..pet frostnova!, icelance,icelance fireblast
about 4 buttons to mash one dead. Combine that with ap,trinket.
I really want to duel you with my shadow priest. Paladins are easy as pie.
Hmm,rogues,im a 58 pally,prot build,fighted rogues like 200 and more times,never loose,even some 5+ lvl ppl.So rogues kill pally ez?Khm,nope.
Warriors? Kill them ez as pie.
And i have 1 q about tankig pala/warr. I always get more agro then warr.And always can take more dmg then them.so why are warr better tanks then prot pala?
ive been full holy, full ret and full prot and i have to say, full holy (with seal of command) is a really good build, especially for pvp
holy tree pallys have MORE dps than the other 2 trees because of divine strength, have MORE mana and have the instant ranged 400dmg (full rank) spell which is an awesome finishing spell in pvp or if theyre running away
the only 2 talents i really miss is reckoning from potection tree and conviction from retribution tree, but ill live =D
oh and just because im holy tree doesnt mean im a healer. theres almost NO difference in healing abilities of different tree'd pallys, its all in the gear. the only useful healing talent is divine favour (linked with illumination) which gives you a critical heal every 2mins which costs zero mana - which is the PERFECT spell to use when shielded because 1 heal and you're full health and still have up to 6 seconds of invincibility left to fight with =P
Iam full Retri, and crusader strike OWNES! thats such a good spell!
I was going to ask the same question as Reeny but looked at Talents a little more closely and discovered, for the first time, that each page (Holy, Prot. & Retri.) will scroll down.
Holy Shock is at the bottom of the Holy page, and requires 30 points of Holy talents.
Edited, Sat Jun 4 07:50:32 2005
This is a very strange question but how or where do I get holy shock level 1?
Can this be cast while running? Or moving at all.
It looks like it's an instant cast so you should be able to cast it while moving. Of course a 30 second cool down sucks but at least it gives us one almost range attack that will work against everything.
Edited, Tue Feb 1 13:35:09 2005
It's really cool spell and it looks like the spell of the priest like a slash of light energy
and yes it's intant...but the talent tree doesn't look really cool (I'm retribution).
I see that you can get this at lvl 40, but is there a lvl 60 version of this spell. I have been looking around, but i guess its either not there or i am looking in the wrong places.
以神圣的能量冲击目标，造成204 to 220点神圣伤害，或为盟友恢复204 to 220点生命值。
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