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评论来自 Thottbot

somehow i find it hard to believe that u got 4WF in a row what wpn where u using?

评论来自 Thottbot

I cant stand this bull!@#$ to be honest.
Yes I am the 60 shaman deffending my class.
WIndfury is VERY VERY good when it now proccs. I would say that Enhancement shamans (MELEE (WINDFURY)) relies on JUST winfury, if you dont procc windfury your chance on loosing is HUGE.
So you can say that Enhancement shamans are living on LUCK to procc.
If you want a more serious specc, a more skilled specc you would go for Elemental. Elemental is Extremely good if you know what to do (Then I mean kyting-how it now spells,I dont know-) keep range, keep using different shocks, keep chainlightning (wich is EXTREMELY good at lvl 60).
Restoration shamans are more for End game instances like Molten Core Etc Etc.
But the best specc would be
Restoration - to get natures swiftness, and rest elemental-

Please stop saying everything is overpowered, I just hate beginners like that, you just need skills.

评论来自 Thottbot

Why are u all classes complaining for WF?
Rogues have ambush and can stunlock.
Palas simply are immune to death.
Warriors can do 2000+ dmg with execute and have shield bash and pummel if the shaman tries to heal.
Mages have poly(unbreakable by any class without trinket except druids)
Priests are priests.
Warlocks can crit a hellish 2000+ with one shadowbolt.
Hunters have freeze traps,slow shot(dont remember name right now),wing clip.
Druids have stealth,can have warrior's armor while wearing leather,have travel form that breaks all slow,immobilze,poly effects.

So stop complaining about shaman and WF.Every class has its own advantages and disadvantages...
AKA:LEARN TO PLAY.

评论来自 Thottbot

as a lvl 60 mage i can say ive defeated lvl 59 shamans several times (duel) but never a lvl 60 shaman. if i crit both frostbolt and cone of cold for a total of ~2500 dmg they just instant heal and keep interrupting my spells with earthshock.

评论来自 Thottbot

Stop complaining about shammies being rigged, obviously none of you complainers have ever played to level 60 as a shammy or you'd realize that w/out a great deal of luck u wont be pwning anybody that badly. ALL CLASSES ARE GOOD AT END GAME.....
OMG, rogues are rigged they can stun me for 12 seconds and blind you and bandage themselves when you are killing them

OMG, mages are rigged, they can polymorph you for 30 seconds and you cant do anything about it (unless your a druid or hav class w/ trinket)

OMG, Paladins are rigged, an epic paladin has 7.2k health and can immune shield himself twice and LoH ever 1 hour

etc, etc...

I can keep going like this but just realize some classes are better at certain things than others

评论来自 Thottbot

Every class has a special ability (or special abilities in other cases) that makes them different from the others.

Shaman get Windfury Weapon, Reincarnation, Water Walking, Underwater Breathing.
Warriors get Charge, Intercept, and Execute.
Rogues get Stealth, Vanish (in combat stealth), Backstab, Blind, Poisons, and Ambush.
Paladins get Immunity shields.
Mages get Blink, and just all out over-the-edge damage crits.

And so on... I can go on and on how every class gets equally powerful abilities no other class has access to.

And don't say Ambush is useless and Windfury Weapon is much better. You can in fact every 10 minutes get 2 Ambushes in per fight with the talent that instantly finishes all cooldowns on Rogue abilities. Even as low as level 30, a Rogue can take out half of a Shaman's health in one Ambush crit. If the Shaman isn't in Ghost Wolf form, you might as well kiss your ass goodbye, because you're not going to survive the stunlock.

Like others have said, an Enhancement Shaman relies on Windfury Weapon just like a Rogue relies on stunlock. If a Rogue fails to stunlock, they're pretty much done for. Same thing goes for an Enhancement Shaman, if Windfury fails, they're pretty much screwed.

It's not as overpowered as it sounds. I know how to play my classes, and I lose to Rogues just as easily as I destroy them.

I find it kind of funny that the counter argument to Windfury Weapon is in fact Ambush, an ability part of a class that has it easier than any other class in the game.

评论来自 Thottbot

I'd pick wf over flametongue or rockbiter any day. Strangely enough, i find wf better for fast weapons when farming, and slower weapons in pvp. Its just because one powerful strike is a good opener against casters.

But, as you can see, shamans shouldnt focus on melee stats on the expense of losing int, spell dmg and crits. Relying only on melee attacks in pvp is just plain stupid. Opening without lightning bolt/chain lightning against a melee class is even more stupid. The best for you is to get as much opening dmg as possible(before they can hurt you, that is).

Against casters windfury shines, really. first melee range hit can make a real difference with proc. And even without one, you can still deal dmg and interrupt with earth shock, slow down with earthbind and get another go. On the other hand, its not wise to open against casters with bolts, unless you can surprise them from mid-range. They will just start nuking you.

Windfury itself is a good enchant when procs, when it doesnt, it gets frustrating. Id rather have it few times in one battle than 3 times in row, especially when grinding. Also its VERY VERY annoying when you get a proc on a 1% mob. This &*!@ happens with elemental focus too. You dont have to have flurry in order to get good use out of wf, but its recommended. What i recommend besides wf, is "Chance on hit" proc weapons. Crusader is best enchant to get (besides 22 int), more hits, more procs.100 str also means 200xtra ap for us-not to mention the heals.

评论来自 Thottbot

Well sry to disapoint you......what would i have to gain to lie?

Yes when WF procs + crits (quite often i must say) it shows...3 hits between 500 & 700

ok my weapon is RAVAGER https://classic.wowhead.com/item=4578

and i'm enhancement shammy 29pts in it already...
+ agi armor + totems of course.

im a shammy i use totems...lol
*** strenght totem
*** grace of air totem

so with all this combined i hit over 2k often with WF and im lvl 46...!

Mautaur

评论来自 Thottbot

Which is better for a shammy strength or agility?

评论来自 Thottbot

My point was, that in pve, grinding, its very nice to keep flurry going 100% of the time. You can do this with about, id say 12% crit gear, which is fairly easy to get. Also, the faster the better weapon. Hypnotic blade and Gift of the elven magi are ideal choices. Lifeforce dirk can serve the purpose on mid 50s too.

In pvp rely in big burst dmg with 2h speed 3.5+. The speeds dmg difference isnt as radical as with warriors, so you can use Malicious axe etc., but the slower the better.

Crit gear beats str gear, but if you manage to get both in one item, its good, but remember that decent mana pool keeps the shocks coming nicely. I'll recommend ogre forged hauberk, leggings of destruction and skufury or backwood helm, in addition to painweaver band+ scout's medallion or the 26 ap 1% crit neck. Warpwood binding is a good choice too. With enough of these spread all over the set, 25% crit with GoA is reality. This will make you a killing machine with imp wf in case it procs....its always about the chance, isnt it? ^^

评论来自 Thottbot

Well Mr. X-ifist if a shaman comes up to you and crits windfury he would be an illusion, you can't crit windfury, you can crit the windfury attack but windfury is just the name of the buff.

Secondly why is it so bad a shaman has 20% chance of killing you before you can do anything, note you could do something shamans aren't the best class for camouflage. Rogues can stun lock you for almost the entire fight if they can finish you off quickly. Warriors crit almost all the time, with their large aresnal of 2h weapons im sure while the shaman is trying to heal wishing he had a bubble the warrior could crit>execute. Priest just do what the PvP priests do (scream (psychic) mind blast>shadow word>mind flay etc.
hunters, while you're healing just start aimed shot, makes it as though you never healed but you lost the mana. Druids put their DoT's on you and generally act as fodder until something unusual happens like the druid wins. Paladins use the bubble combination: bubble heal, bubble run, bubble hearth, bubble sit, new and improved bubble log out. Mages just nuke you. Warlocks just take your totems away with their pet, or if ssuccubus is out seduce you, wand the totem, soul fire you. Shaman vs Shaman just out proc each other, now do you see everyones got an OMGPWNed by a noobNERF chain of moves (except the paladin unless he has full epic and/or sulphuras). Bt just because you saw a shaman, fancied your chances and lost doesn't mean the whole class is nerfed so you can have someone to own that pesky hunter wing clipped you again.

评论来自 Thottbot

hearthstone. rofl. tricky sack of !@#$.

评论来自 Thottbot

just do what i did and quit complaining and find a better build than enh.. sure its fun to see those amazing crits that = to around 4k damage but with ele/resto you will live much longer and it has proven to me that it is much better for pvp and dps'ing... not to mention some guilds will let you raid even if most of your point are in ele and you have around 21 in resto

评论来自 Thottbot

In the recent patch and the Burning Crusade the way Windfury weapon works has been changed. The way it used to work was giving two extra white attacks, which were subject to dodge, miss and parry just like regular white attacks.

Windfury Weapon has now been changed to have their attacks being yellow, not white. So for example in PvE the attacks are considered "special hits" and have a smaller miss chance than white attacks.

You might have already said "WAIT LOL TOOLTIP SAYS 1 ATTACK EQUIVALENT TO 2 ATTACKS LOLZ". It is indeed so, the tooltip says like it, but the tooltip is incorrect. You will still do two attacks, both attacks receiving 333 more attack power. Only thing they changed was making the damage yellow.

Combined with dualwielding and stormstrike Windfury weapon procs often, thanks to a load of fast swings over a small period of time.

评论来自 Thottbot

i wonder can i enchant both weapons with diffrent enchants ? like main with wf , and offhand with frostbite ?

评论来自 Thottbot

Haven`t tested it yet (my shammy is only 37), but I believe that I read on WoW forums that each weapon can be independently enchanted when DWing. Not sure exactly how it`s done though (like if you need to click the WF Weapon button and *then* the wep you want it on, or whatever).

So if I`m recalling correctly, you could indeed have WF on mainhand and Frostbrand on offhand, which would be nasty in PvP.

EDIT:

Just got 40 and DW, so here`s some more info:

Yeah, you can enchant each weapon individually with different buffs if you want. First click enchants mainhand, next click enchants offhand automatically. If you click an enchant already in use (say, you have WF on your MH and Frost on OH and you click Frost), it auto-reapplies to the appropriate weapon. If you click an enchant NOT in use (using the above example, but clicking Fire instead of Frost), you get the 'Select a target' glowy hand, at which point you can click whichever weapon you want it on.

So it`s pretty easy.

Edit again:

Also, you can now remove weapon buffs by right-clicking the weapon icon in the "Buffs" area on your screen. Previously this wasn`t possible but now it is, so I figured it was noteworthy. Can be handy in some cases. Let`s say you have WF/Frost, and you wanna put WF on your OH too. Just clicking WF will only reapply to MH and never override the Frost, so you need to right-click the Frosted weapon icon to remove the Frost, and then you can WF it normally.

评论来自 Allakhazam

HOLY ^&*!

No wonder they're called overpowered.

665 extra attack power is like twice the damage on the weapon if not more.

I can see a Shaman doing 2 extra swings for 1k dmg each at a 20% proc rate... And I don't like it!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Can any enhancement shaman tell me if stormstrike has any ranks?

评论来自 Allakhazam

One Word:

抚慰者 yeah!

B00M -WF proc- BOOMBOOM!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Nerf shamans =/
Half their spells are just as broken as this one, isnt it ridiculous?

Edited, Thu Aug 25 21:58:43 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

Shamans suck bum.

评论来自 Allakhazam

haha yeah!

评论来自 Allakhazam

WoW, Shamans really should just be happy with their extra attacks!

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