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评论来自 5484

Fun facts:
Each kill gives you 20 reputation, while taking 100 reputation from the opposing faction.
Therefore, it will take you 50 kills in order to become Friendly with the prescribed faction.

评论来自 4851

This is assuming you are within the average level for the quest. When I did the quest with my warrior I only got one rep per kill! Man that was a long day...

评论来自 oraro

Before accepting this quest or Gelkis Alliance (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=1368) it is a good idea to check the rewards for the final quest in the series since you can only complete one series without taking a lot of effort faction grinding after finishing one series.

The rewards for the Gelkis Alliance series are:
-Gelkis Marauder Chain (mail chest: 14 agi, 7 str https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=6773)
-Uthek's Finger (off-hand: 5 stam, 5 int, 5 spi https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=6774)

The rewards for the Magram Alliance series are:
-Magram Hunter's Belt (leather belt: 8 agi, 9 stam https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=6788)
-Ceremonial Centaur Blanket (cloak: 2 int, 9 spi https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=6789)

评论来自 808

Personally, I never saw a reason to do either set of quests. The rewards weren't all to good, there were no notable vendor goodies, it made a portion of the map that you could previously pass through unharmed inhospitable, and within a few levels you'd pass out of the zone and on into Feralas/Tanaris/Searing Gorge/Wherever.

If you're gonna grind rep, wait untill you're approaching the endgame, when the rewards are worth it.

评论来自 6786

I personally saw this particular questline(as a hunter) as a perfect way to grind XP from lvl 30-40, desolace was my home, and you have to admit that you grind better when there is some reward looming overhead, I think this quest was tottaly worth it IMHO

评论来自 kreghx

Well I'm glad, Iwanted to grind all day. This quest at 34, 84 was boring long, and that other quest the grekin one.. the xp was awful. not worth it. I hope this one is better when I'm done.

评论来自 10100_

Here's an overall of the quests and their exp rewards...
- Magram -
:. Assault on the Kolkar .: 2550 exp. Difficulty: Easy at proper level.
:.Broken Tears.: 2850 exp. Difficulty: Easy at proper level.
:.Gizmo for Warug.: 2050 exp Difficulty: Damn easy, may cost you some money.
:.Khan Shaka.: 2850 exp Difficulty: Moderate, may require a group.
:.Khan Hratha.: 1700 exp, and rewards mentioned in above posts. Difficulty: Moderate - Difficult depending on level and class. May require a group.
Total EXP: 12000

- Gelkis -
:.Raid on the Kolkar.: 2550 exp Difficulty: Easy at proper level
:.Stealing supplies.: 1350 exp, 18 silver in quest rewards Difficulty: Easy at proper level
:.Ongeku.: 2850 exp Difficulty: Difficult. The camp where Ongeku is crowded, and they're all runners.
:.Khan Jen.: 2850 exp Difficulty: Moderate.
:.Khan Hratha.: 4300 exp Difficulty: Difficult.
Total exp: 13900

Although the Gelkis quests are a bit harder, they do seem to yield more exp and there's some extra silver from one of the quests. I honestly don't know why the final magram quest yields less exp than the gelkis final quest. They're both the same. >_>

评论来自 46104

yo i have completed killin the mobs for tthe quest ''magram alliance'', but now where do i turn in the quest?
wheres Warbug or w.e?

评论来自 25953

NPC to turn in the quest is at 74, 68 at the top of a small hill with a campfire.

评论来自 Thottbot

This quest ends at 75.68

评论来自 Thottbot

Unsure if it was worth it to do this quest...I only got 650 xp....and well that was a crapload of centaurs I had to kill...

评论来自 Thottbot

i need the cords. of gelkis vilage...those ho i need to kill.tnx in front

评论来自 Thottbot

Gelkis are at 39.90 at Desolace

评论来自 Thottbot

Warug is located north-east of the village, on a hill. Look for a path that isn't to steep into the mountains. He will, of course, show up on the minimap when you get close enough.

评论来自 Thottbot

Coordinates are 36,79

评论来自 Thottbot

This ended at 74,68 for me on a little hill with a fire going.

评论来自 Thottbot

Confirmed. He is at 74,68

评论来自 Thottbot

First you have to remove the sword icon from your reputation bar with the Magram and then kill a lot of Gelkis'. That's 20 points pr Gelkis so there will be a lot of killing...
When done, go to the Magram camp, behind the camp in the mountain, you will find the quest finisher. The waypoint is 75.68.
Now, I got some exp by killing all these Gelkis' but its no more than 240/250 a piece... Then i got 650 exp from finishing the quest. Found no fancy items on the Gelkis'...

I do not recommend this quest.. Skip it, its not worth the time.

评论来自 Thottbot

Can any body, put a map in or something? i can't find the place ?

评论来自 Thottbot

that first set of coor not even close, second set right on target

评论来自 Thottbot

Okay... I know everyone here is saying it's 20 rep per gelkis... my friend and I tho are only getting 4rep per gelkis. Has it changed since the patch, or are we just trying to do the quest when we're way too high in level for it?

评论来自 Thottbot

Coordinates confirmed as 74,68 for Warug.

评论来自 Thottbot

coords of the gelkis centaurs are like 39,90 and 35,90 and south of the 2 coords i jus said

not coords and genral directions:::

go west from mannorac coven on the path and take the first left...

or

go east on the path from shadowprey village and take the first right

follow the path down and you will see the gelkis centaurs.

your rep will be like 1100 check it by pressing c and then clicking rep on the bottom bar. the scroll down and it will say your rep with the gelkis and magram. killing the gelks should slowly get your rep up witht the maggram. you get 20 rep for killing each one and in the beginning your rep should be like 1000

you need to make approx 50 kills
gelks range from levs 33-35's the ones right to the south of the coords have minions

评论来自 Thottbot

In your character profile, under Reputation...

If you click the faction to look at a popup box gives you the option to have your rep with that faction displayed as a bar just over your experience bar so you can see your rep grow or drop each kill)

评论来自 Thottbot

If you really want leather armor or you find yourself questing in South Desolace often, choose to pick the Magram rather than the Gelkis. If you want mail armor or you find yourself questing in East Desolace often, go ahead and side with the Gelkis.
I would side with the Gelkis just because it's much easier to kill the Magram for rep or quests. The Gelkis are mostly in that cave (oh, how I hate that cave!) and the huge hole in the ground that's hard to kill in. Magrams have water in their camp true, but all the more reason to pick them. No close-quarters fighting for you casters, and flee into the water if you get too many adds.
In reality, it's all up to you.

评论来自 Thottbot

have to say as a lvl 33 druid this is annoying. you have to kill so many i would skip but im already close to finish.

评论来自 Thottbot

Look for the fire on the hill to the left beyond the water

评论来自 Allakhazam

I really, don't know what you people are talking about. This quest takes nowhere near 2-3 hours. I did it in 35 minutes (I know because I found an Agility II scroll on my first drop and was able to time it easily). Solo'd with a 32 UD Rogue with very little downtime between fights. Crippling Poison means mobs won't run to their friends when they are low on HPs, and with pickpocket I made around 1.5 Gold in the end. A little hint, untick the box that says At War with the Magrams, but keep the Gelkis one selected. Common sense tells me that if you are at war with their allies and friendly with the Magrams, they will befriend you faster.

Mobs are 32-33, with 34 Casters and their 29 Elemental minions, and some 36 deep in the area inside huts.

Edited, Tue Feb 22 15:27:44 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

was curious what the benefits of this were,
Personally i did the other side and sided with the gelkis mostly
in character cause the magram are pretty bad, working with the undead yadda yadda. The gelkis side took me an hour and 15 but then i AM a druid so everything takes longer.

评论来自 Allakhazam

The follow up quest to this one is Broken Tears. You have to go back to the Gelkis Village and into the cave they have on the back mountian wall. Just inside there are large blueish white cyrstals you have to bring 3 of them back to Warug. The quest gives you 2650 xp and another quest. The next quest is called Gizmo for Warug you have to bring him an advance targetting dummy. I am still working on this one will update when I finish it.

Tohopka 33 Tauren Warrior

评论来自 Allakhazam

I did this quest on my main awhile ago and yes, it took about 2 hours of non-stop killing.

I'm about to try it again with my alt, so we'll see if it's any different. Going from Neutral to Friendly is a PITA when each kill is only a 'very slight increase'. I guess they're not the worst mobs to grind on since they drop cash, but it is still a grind.

评论来自 Allakhazam

it didnt take me a while to get my rep up, but i cant find Warug to turn it in!

评论来自 Allakhazam

i got a blue drop for a Gelkis Winchaser. Harpeclaw Shortbow. so you can get blue drops from gelkis. or magram who ever you choose to war with

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ugh I cant find Warug to turn it in, can someone post Cords...please.

评论来自 Allakhazam

You know, for all the whining about this quest - it really didn't take that long at all. From what people here are saying I expected hours of painstaking grinding but it took less than an hour. Actually perceptually it didn't even really feel like I killed more of these than I would kill of any mob for any standard drop rate quest (collect 10 turtle meat, etc).

I think this is a case where the whine FAR exceeds the actual trouble.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I just finished this with a level 37 Orc Warrior, and maybe spent thirty-five minutes on it. I just killed all of the Gelkis I saw (probably around fifty, in total), and easily got the Friendly rating. I haven't turned it in, yet, so I am unable to comment on the reward.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I took both quests ,not being sure which way to go.As i ran thru the Magram Village nothing happened then after fiding the Gelkis two of the casters agroed me..(This made choice easy)
After killing one of these i checked Reputation page and both new factions were there.
Both were yellow ,Neutral and at war,so i removed the tick against Magram,started killing the Gelkis.
After about 20 kills there was a noticeable change in levels of factions, the name tags above the Gelkis had even gone from yellow to an orange colour.
Im guessing with this change after 20 it shouldnt take many more (lets hope so :p)

评论来自 Allakhazam

He's at 75,68

评论来自 Allakhazam

I've picked up this quest and yet I don't seem to have a reputation bar for either the Gelkis or the Magram Centaurs. Is there something I need to do before they'll show up or do I just need to start killing the Gelkis?

评论来自 Allakhazam

well im glad iwanted to grind all day .... this quest at 34, 84 was boring long... and that other quuest the grekin one.. the xp was awful. not worth it. i hope this one is better when im done

评论来自 Allakhazam

74,68. Hes tucked away northeastern part of the camp.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Had to kill about 50 for Magram to become friendly to me at level 40.

评论来自 Allakhazam

From the previous posts, it looks like the key to this quest is to do it in a group at a lower level rather than wait until a higher level and solo it. I did it last night as a level 33 Warrior grouped with a level 32 Shaman. It took a while, but nothing like the figures some have been quoting. I would guess about half an hour.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I just finished this quest as a lvl 35 Mage, and it took about 30 minutes to become friendly. Didn't get a single drop, green or blue.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Warug is at exactly 75,68.2 u should see him on ur map as a gold dot.

评论来自 Allakhazam

It's a good grinding place and a blue dropped for me as well.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I chose the Magram Quest, and I am crossposting for possible relevance. I counted the number of Gelkis kills, and checked my rep before and after I started and did a few calculations.

0.0026 rep decrease with Gelkis Clan per Gelkis Clan centaur killed at lv 37. 0.0077 rep increase with Magram clan per Gelkis clan centaur killed at lv 37. if you take this quest at lv 37, which is a lv 33 green for me right now, to go from 4.0 neutral to friendly (at 5.0) for Magram it will take 130 centaur kills. If you get the quest at a lower level, it will take 35 or so centaur kills, per firsthand accounts by groupies.

You can do your own calculations by checking the Reputation tab on your character.

Edit1: I am sooooooo dumping this quest... currently at 4.7166667 (Neutral) with Magram Clan, and 1.8319444 (Hated) with Gelkis Clan. At this rate, for me to get to 5.0 (Friendly) with Magram, I will need 0.2833333 increase in rep. With my calculations above, and I've been getting 73 or so xp per kill (hardly leveling material), it will take me 36.79 more kills to reach friendly, or 37 kills.

Edit2: Hrm. maybe I will tough it out. 37 kills, with about 68 copper per kill (guestimate), gives me 2516 copper = 25 silver 16 copper. on third thought.... I'm going to STV.

Edited, Fri Mar 4 17:47:04 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

It took me about 20 minutes to get my reputation up to friendly killing Gelkis. This was me as a 32 rogue grouped with a 37 warlock.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Depends on your class or not if you wanna grind fast. Tbh I wouldnt bother.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I didn't enjoy this quest at all. Made me feel like I was farming, only with really crappy silk drops. I takes at least 2 hours to get your rep up and then there is no reward. I hope the post quests get better.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I am about to start on these quests, and as it would cost a lot of time to do the Magram and then the Gelkis, which do people prefer? Is there any advantage to befriending the Magram over the Gelkis or vice versa?

评论来自 Allakhazam

I killed the Gelkis at lvl 32 nothing good for drops other than silk and $. I did not have to kill all that many maybe 40-50 of them, my problem is finding Warug to turn in the quest. Only issue I have are the lvl 39-40 birds and scorpions in the area as they wind up killing me when I run around to find Warug!

评论来自 Allakhazam

after Gizmo for Warug you have to kill the Khan. Just bring a friend and it will be easy.

Then comes the hard quest. Kill the Maraudine Khan. i did it 3 times before getting key fragment i needed. questline is really not worth it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

The rewards at the end of the chain include:

Magram Hunter's Belt
Binds when picked up
Waist Leather
65 Armor
+9 Stamina
+8 Agility
Ceremonial Centaur Blanket
Binds when picked up
Back Cloth
28 Armor
+2 Intellect
+9 Spirit

评论来自 Allakhazam

After 3 hours of massacring the Gelkis centaur I finally got friendly with the magram and return for 600 experience and no reward? This quest get a 0 on a scale of 1 to 10. 0 isn't even on that scale!

Oh yeah, and it does NOT lead to Assault on the Kolkar. Nobody has done the followup quest because they were all too mad about the first part of it LIKE ME F U BLIZZ FOR THIS ONE!

Edited, Wed Dec 15 11:52:04 2004

评论来自 Wyr3d

I read through the advice given for both chains, and considered the gear rewards, but to be honest, what is most important is the XP, right? Naturally, the Alliance scum get more in the chain (typical Blizzard) than the awesome Horde with the faction introduction quests.

(Alliance)
Brutal Politics - 2,050xp
Assault - 2,550xp
or
Strange Alliance - 2,050xp
Raid on the Kolkar - 2,550xp

(Horde)
Gelkis Alliance - 660xp
or
Magram Alliance - 660xp

(Both)

Gelkis Questline
Stealing Supplies - 1,350xp
Ongeku - 2,850xp
Khan Jehn - 2,850xp
Khan Hratha - 4,300xp and this or this

Total = 12,010xp

Magram Questline
Broken Tears - 2,650xp
Gizmo for Warug - 2,050xp
Kahn Shaka - 2,850xp
Khan Hratha - 4,300xp and this or this

Total = 12, 510xp - but costs the price of one Advanced Target Dummy server dependant (1gold 30silver on my server - not worth 500xp)

Basically, Alliance scum get more XP than Hord regardless of the chain you pick, or if you're crazy and grind back rep to do both chains. Magram rewards an extra 500xp, but you'll need to pay out some cash for it, so factor this into your choice. The gear rewards are pretty meh, and it's likely you have better - but if you somehow have worse, it might be worth it to you.

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要想打败半人马，我们就必须让他们自相残杀。首先我们要笼络一支半人马部族，利用它们打败所有的半人马。

如果你准备和玛格拉姆部族结盟，那么就去杀掉他们的敌人——吉尔吉斯部族的半人马，这会使你在玛格拉姆部族中赢得尊重。当你得到足够的尊重之后，就可以去会见玛格拉姆部族的首领瓦鲁格，他就在凄凉之地东南部的玛格拉姆村外。

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输入以下代码查看此任务是否已完成

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