WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Classic WoW Launch, Economic Impact plus TradeSkillMaster
WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up
Welcome to the 93rd edition of the WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-up! In this edition we're taking a look at post-launch of Classic WoW and its impact on retail servers, plus TradeSkillMaster in Classic!
If you're new to this series or want to re-visit past posts, you can
check out the previous articles right here on wowhead.com
My name is
and I’m the lead moderator for the
and the accompanying
. I am also the Support/Community Manager & User Evangelist for
, the Auction House addon suite for World of Warcraft. I stream on Twitch for
and my focus is on mentoring and tutoring the WoW community in all things gold-making. I hope to cover and showcase some of the interesting topics, discussions, content and guides that have been going on over the last week in the gold making community. Some that you might have missed as a veteran gold maker, or you might be interested in checking out for the first time as a new or aspiring ‘goblin’.
The format will not be that of a traditional guide, but links to further reading with commentary and opinions of my own. I will be looking at the bigger picture, the decision making and thought processes in being a gold maker – rather than a step by step instructional list. As the saying goes, “give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime”.
It's been a hectic week since the launch of Classic WoW, even though we already have our world first level 60 character. Discussions have been ongoing about the impact of Classic on the servers for modern WoW.
WoWuction online tool tracks total global volume of Auction Houses, it displayed a significant drop in auctions posted since the launch of Classic WoW.
This mostly shows that auctions aren't getting reposted, i.e players are not logging in to modern WoW in favour of playing Classic. At the time of writing it isn't showing any signs of recovering yet but we are still early days in the life cycle of Classic WoW, where the vast majority of players have not yet hit max level.
/u/jonwinegar speculates further on how it will play out
I gold farm in BFA and I am wondering will materials like Herb/Ore/Skins/Enchant mats drop in price or increase a few weeks after the release of classic?
I have a few theories:
Players in BFA will decrease their play time because they will be spending most of their time on classic. With less competition while farming and in the AH would mean a price increase on the mats I mentioned.
People who stopped playing BFA renew their subscription for Classic and end up playing BFA casually because why not you have an active sub. This would increase the amount of active players in BFA making more competition and seeing a drop in prices due to more competition. Unless we see less experienced players joining in which case endgame mats would not change much or even increase in price as new players level their professions.
What are your thoughts. I have lots of materials, mostly herbs/enchanting mats/ore to sell and I am debating wether I should sell it right now and during the first week of Classic or should I sell my mats on the AH 3 weeks after Classic's release?
/u/RHAGU points towards economic lesson 101, supply and demand
IMO, you are just focusing on the supply. IMO, the lack of demand will be a significant contributor to the price decline. If significantly fewer people start raiding, then significantly fewer people need food, enchants, gems. I think most of the cloth/leather is being shuffled into enchanting mats since the role filled by crafted gear in previous expansions is being done by benthic.
So if the next few weeks, the new gear per week is a tiny fraction of what it has been, then the prices will drop. IMO, quite a bit.
Based on the chart above it's not possible to also determine demand of particular items, but watching the community chatter on Discord many of them are complaining of slow or no sales at all. This is probably expected since we're still only in week one of Classic WoW release though,
/u/wunderbier456 comments further
majority of classic player base wouldn't be playing retail anyways
majority of classic player base wont spend much time in retail
every single retail player will log in to classic for at least 1h just out of curiosity
there will not be two-games players, this means that eventually a person will either play retail or classic, never both (runescape 3 vs. oldschool logic)
some classic players will be willing to farm in retail with the sole point of buying tokens
all of retail player base that remains in retail will keep their activities as they are
as time passes, classic players will not be able to keep up with new methods of gold-making, specially the complex ones and/or the ones that require a big setup/reputation/investment... so they will be jumping into the quickest money printer they see and that's usually current patch material (either via gathering or group farms)
you will not see classic players log in retail and doing flips to pay for their subscription; you will not see classic players log in retail and camping the AH for cheap mats and constant undercuts; they will not do shuffles; etc.
so, imo, in retail, specifically on easy gathering, on avg, will be a raise in the supply WITHOUT a raise in demand
how big this imbalance will be, IDK, but we all know that supply/demand is a unstopabble rule in economy, so if its either gonna be a 10% drop in prices or 50% is hard to say, but a drop will happen (assuming my assumptions are correct, of course)
8.2 Gold Making
Thankfully, while everyone is leveling to 60 in Classic,
has outlined all the best ways to make gold on modern WoW servers in her latest video.
What has been your experience like on modern WoW servers since the launch of Classic WoW? Have you logged in to BFA at all or are you spending more time/made the switch to Classic?
TradeSkillMaster in Classic
The TSM team cut it close in the lead up to the launch of Classic and
shared the news that TradeSkillMaster would function in the relaunch of the original World of Warcraft
As of version 4.8 of TSM, the addon will load in-game for Classic just as it does for Retail. You may need to select the option to ‘load out of date addons’ initially.
When using TSM4 in Classic WoW it’s important to be aware of some of the limitations, including pricing data.
Blizzard have not yet provided any Auction House data APIs for Classic, this is expected at launch however it is still unknown whether they ever will be introduced. This means TSM will not be able to provide any pricing data for your realm or region via the Desktop App for Classic. This also means you do not require the AppHelper addon when using TSM4 in Classic.
With this in mind, we have made sure that support for both Auctioneer and Auctionator pricing is implemented, so if you were to scan the Auction House in-game with either of those addons, you can use that pricing information in your TSM operations.
We hope you’ll enjoy reliving the memories of Vanilla WoW, or discovering the original game as it was in Classic WoW – all the while making enough gold for your epic mount using TSM!
Auctioneer released an update for Classic WoW
. There is no official release of Auctionator at this time, however a
'quickfix' is available on WoW Interface
. Both of these addons can be used to scan the Auction House in Classic and provide pricing updates for your realm, and price sources for your TSM Operations.
This Auctioneer release includes the following changes since r6382:
(1) Support for WoW Classic, with two important caveats: (1) Faction specific AHs have not yet been implemented, for now all scanning is treated as one big AH. So you may want to only scan a single faction AH for the time being, or at least be aware that you will cause some stats problems if you scan both/all three faction AHs in close time proximity.
(2) You will need to load out of date addons in the Classic client. For now there is no way to specify an interface TOC that works in both retail and classic, so we will need to make some modifications to our build system in order to support the classic TOCs. We figured you'd rather get working addons sooner rather than wait for us to fix that. No ETA yet on when this will get done.
Blog guest poster Samadan has prepared a
video to guide you through setting up TradeSkillMaster in Classic too
/u/Bayart very kindly shared their initial TSM groups on the WoW Economy subreddit
, which covers some of the basic markets you might be interested in getting involved in.
I've made very basic item groups for Classic, without any custom operations, meant to serve as a basis to build operations or stopgap for the time being.
You'll find :
More or less all bags (including things that I'm not sure can actually be seen on the AH)
All BoE weapons and armor organized by rarity
Almost all relevant mats organized by type (including a list of random crap)
All class books
All BoE recipes plus a list of vendor recipes (overlaps with the other lists)
All crafted consumables organized by type (still missing world drops like Rumsey Rum)
Have you been using Auction House addons in Classic so far? Do you prefer to play the game as it was originally without modern addons?
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