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评论来自
Aqzt
Got his bow for my hunter on my first run of WC... it rocks! It's good for PvP and PvE. Definitely try to get it.
评论来自
1280
This bow is perfect for lower levels as the proc is an added bonus . I have used this on my hunter from 19 til about almost 30 due to proc chance.
评论来自
izlude
This bow is not to easy to get even for a low level instnace, plan on saving enough XP to run a few times to get it, other wise you will not see it coming and have to wast to much xp getting it, i was almost 19 and 1/2 when i saw it drop
评论来自
Minora
This is by far the best level 19 bow out there (atleast for now).
The runner up is the
Warsong Gulch
reward bow.
Outrunner's Bow
(Alliance)
Outrider's Bow
(Horde)
评论来自
47522
Is this guy possible to farm? i.e can you get a twink run through to this point without having to kill any other bosses and not too much trash? or do you have to go around the whole instance?
评论来自
Tsaza
After last boss there is hole to jump down into a pool. Take your friend to wait there and then pull this boss nearby the hole, so when you kill it up there your friend will get the loot in group loot/ml.
评论来自
warioman
this is a super good bow for lvl 19 twinks although it is hard to get as an ally it is so worth it
评论来自
Thottbot
I came across this WSGing, when Horde Hunters appeared to use nature attacks on me, to very unpleasant ends. I thotted the proc, and found the bow 2 visits to the Wailing Caverns nearly pushed me over the 20 threshold, but its well worth it, The Proc crits, and seems to when the actual base damage crits, I've popped some absolute Show stoppers with this thing. It wrecks Powerword shield, it does horrible damage to warriors, and is general horrible death. Lovely. Oh and it procs on multi, for certain.
评论来自
Thottbot
Venomstrike is supposed to be faster, and it really depends on you fighting style in PvP. Try them first hand and figure it out. Or keep them both and alternate in different circumstances (Like those evil sword rogues that love to scare you with an ambush).
评论来自
Thottbot
This bow appears to have been buffed up in the last patch, a screenshot of the new details follows:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/alessthanperfectfiction/venomstrike.jpg
As far as I can see this makes it better than
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
, and your respective Warsong Gulch reward bow. Making it the new best twink weapon...
评论来自
Thottbot
leggings of the fang are no longer worth getting for the proper twink :)
评论来自
Thottbot
If you want to get tech. with 19 hunter twinks, here is my perfered layout.
Note that this is a primary STA build over AGI (You lose 2-3 Damage but its worth the HP boost)
Item Slot (Enchant)
Head: Lucky Fishing Hat (+100 HP)/Green Tinted Goggles (+100 HP)
Neck: Sentinel's/Scouts Medallion
Shoulder: Talbar Mantle / Aldor/Scryer Rep enchant on Grey shoulders
Back: Sentry Cloak (+3 AGI)
Chest: Blackened Defias Armor (+100 HP)
Bracers: Forest Leather Braces (+9 STA)/ Wrangler's Wristbands of the Monkey (+9 STA)
Hands: Scouting Gloves of the Monkey (+15 AGI)
Legs: Dark Leather Pants (+30 STA and +10 AGI)
Boots: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots (+12 STA/ +9 STA and Minor Speed) / Feet of the Lynx (+7 STA)
Finger 1: Seal of Wrynn
Finger 2: Protector's/Legionaire's Band
Trinket 1: Insignia of the Alliance/Horde
Trinket 2: Arena Grand Master
Melee Weapon: Twisted Chanter's Staff (+25 AGI)
Ranged Weapon: Venomstrike (+3 DMG Scope)
You could vary this build to your liking but I found that even though AGI has more Damage/Crit, living is more important.
I listed Feet of the Lynx and Green Tinted Goggles because getting the fishing gear can be very tricky. On my Hunter I managed to snag the boots but am still working at getting the hat.
The rep enchant on the shoulders could be consider exploiting so use with caution if at all (I personally haven't done it, and it may have been fixed by now)
If you want I could list alternate AGI build, but if you plan to make a twink hunter, go STA build... STA Rogues seem to fair better as well
Any questions about 19 twink hunters email me at matthew-andrews@hotmail.com or ingame Kilia or Heian on Malorne Alliance
Note: I am aware that Horde are unable to get the Seal of Wrynn but am not sure what the Horde alternative to that is.
My hunter has around 1800 HP and 900-1000 Mana and still hits 74-101 with over 20% crit, which owns in 19 PvP, If you want more accurate stats I can post them.
AGI Build would be more like..
(Only displaying changes in gear/enchants)
Lucky Fishing Hat (+8 AGI)
Glowing Lizard Cloak (+3 AGI)
Tunic of Westfall (+4 All Stats)
Forest Leather Bracers (+9 STA)
Scouting Gloves of Agility (+15 AGI)
Dark Leather Pants (+30 STA and +10 AGI)
Feet of the Lynx (+7 AGI) or Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots (+9 AGI and Minor speed/+12 AGI)
That's what I would go for for an agility build, but like I said I prefer STA
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm collecting some results from dmgmeter, here is what I have so far from some matches.
Shot Name
Number
----------
------
Auto Shot
735
Arcane Shot
312
Multi Shot
264
Serpent Sting
409
-----
-----
Total
1720
-----
-----
Venom Shot
205
Proc including instants: 205/1720 = 11.9%
Now the question is - does the bow proc only from autoshot or do instants also count? There seems to be some discussion on this on various forums but it is our opinion (myself and a few other friend hunter twinks) that any arrow shot from the bow can cause the proc. Thus we feel the proc rate is about 12%.
And I do see the proc is sometimes able to crit.
评论来自
Thottbot
As I read through all comments, I saw nobody were doing some math on this bow vs other twink weapons. I'll skip through chit-chat and get to the point:
Venomstrike, 26-50 damage, 2.40 speed, 15.8 dps, 31-45 ND proc.
Outrunner's Bow, 25-48 damage, 2.40 speed, 15.2 dps.
Lil Timmy's Peashooter, 26-48, 2.60 speed, 14.2 dps.
It looks like Venomstrike is the best weapon if we compare them this way. Outrunner's bow and Venomstrike got same speed, so I'll already quit calculating on Outrunner's Bow, since Venomstrike got higher damage and its proc.
Now... Let us add a +3 scope to each weapon.
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=4407/
精确瞄准镜
It says requires level 20. This is item level. Not character level. Venomstrike and Lil Timmy's Peashooter has an item level above level 20.
Venomstrike, average damage 26+(3)+50(+3)/2=41, dps 41/2.4=17,08333...
Lil Timmy's Peashooter, average damage 26(+3)+48(+3)/2=40, dps 40/2.6=15,385
Let me guess. You probably think Venomstike is way better the Lil Timmy's Peashooter. Take a look on the next math:
Let us add sharp arrows to Venomstrikes dps. It says "Adds 3.5 damage per second". Venomstrike got 2.4 speed, therefore sharp arrows will add 3.5 multiplied 2.4 dps, which is 8.4 extra dps.
Venomstrike, dps 17.08333...+8.4=25.48333.
Let us add crafted heavy shots to Lil Timmy's dps. It says "Adds 4.5 damage per second". Lil Timmy's Peashooter got 2.6 speed, therefore crafted heavy shots will add 4.5 multiplied 2.6 dps, which is 11.7 extra dps.
Lil Timmy's Peashooter, dps 15.385+11.7=27.086.
As you see:
Venomstrike got 25.483 dps+proc.
Lil Timmy's Peashooter got 27.086 dps.
But compare this too:
Venomstrike deals 29-53+8.4 damage.
Lowest damage is 37.4+proc. Highest is 61.4+proc.
Lil Timmy's peashooter deals 29-51+11.7 damage.
Lowest damage is 40.7. Highest is 62.7.
I would say Venomstrike win over Lil Timmy's Peashooter. My argue will be:
Venomstrike's dps vs Lil Timmy's Peashooter's dps is like:
25.483 dps+proc vs 27.086 dps
<=> proc vs 1,603.
I haven't done any calculation on Venomstrike's proc, but I guess it has more than 1.603 dps. On top of that, nature damage penetrates armor. You'll almost find no player with a decent nature resistance in 10-19 level bracket.
There will be too much trouble to add ammo pouch/quivers to my calculation, since then I would have to add proc chance, proc damage, proc dps, crits with talents, crits without talents, burst damage and probably some other stuff...
I hope you enjoy my calculations =).
Best regards.
- Ealdor.
评论来自
Thottbot
As I read through all comments, I saw nobody were doing some math on this bow vs other ranged twink weapons. I'll skip chit-chat and get to the point:
Venomstrike
, 26-50 damage, 2.40 speed, 15.8 dps, 31-45 ND proc.
Outrunner's Bow
, 25-48 damage, 2.40 speed, 15.2 dps.
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
, 26-48, 2.60 speed, 14.2 dps.
It looks like
Venomstrike
is the best ranged weapon if we compare them this way.
Outrunner's Bow
and
Venomstrike
got same speed, so I'll already quit calculating on
Outrunner's Bow
, since
Venomstrike
got higher damage and its proc.
Now... Let us add a +3 scope,
Accurate Scope
, to each weapon.
It says requires level 20. This is item level. Not character level.
Venomstrike
and
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
has an item level above level 20.
Just keep in your mind that you need a level 20+ character to attach it to your range weapon in the non-trade slot.
Venomstrike
, average damage 26+(3)+50(+3)/2=41, dps 41/2.4=17,083.
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
, average damage 26(+3)+48(+3)/2=40, dps 40/2.6=15,385.
Let me guess. You probably think
Venomstike
is way better the
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
. Take a look on the next math:
Let us add
Sharp Arrow
to
Venomstrikes
dps. It says "Adds 3.5 damage per second".
Venomstrike
, dps 17.08333...+3.5=20.583dps.
Let us add
Crafted Heavy Shot
to
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
dps. It says "Adds 4.5 damage per second".
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
, dps 15.385+4.5=19.886.
As you see:
Venomstrike
got 20.583 dps+proc.
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
got 19.886 dps.
But compare this too:
Venomstrike
deals 29-53+8.4 damage.
Lowest damage is 37.4+proc. Highest is 61.4+proc.
Lil Timmy's peashooter deals 29-51+11.7 damage.
Lowest damage is 40.7. Highest is 62.7.
The added damage is the ammo. 3.5 dps multiplied with 2.4 speed for
Venomstrike
and 4.5 dps multiplied 2.6 speed for
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
.
I would say
Venomstrike
win over
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
. My argue will be:
Venomstrike
's dps vs
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
's dps is like:
20.583 dps+proc vs 19.886 dps
<=> proc vs -0.697.
I haven't done any calculation on
Venomstrike
's proc, but I guess it has more than 1.603 dps. On top of that, nature damage penetrates armor. You'll almost find no player with a decent nature resistance in 10-19 level bracket.
Ammo pouches/Quivers increase attack speed by 10% (you can actually got 11% pouch/quiver as Alliance) which will add more range attacks.
The quest is "The Night Watch". It's a level 30 quest in Duskwood.
I hope you enjoyed my calculations =).
Best regards.
- Ealdor.
And thanks to zhopa for correcting me.
评论来自
Thottbot
To add to my previous post on how to get Venomstrike by using the pool/master looter, for those of you who want to get Leggings of the fang this method will also work. clear up to the river, take a left this time, go straight ahead til u see the clif edge above you and have ur high lvl run right thru the low lvl mobs and take out cobrahn. I've done this for several twinks as Leggings of the Fang was the best possible legs at the time, also for the belt Cobrahn's Grasp which is best warrior and arguably best pally belt. This is the best way of getting these items if u are already lvl 19 or do not want to go too far into lvl 18 to save room for quest items...the only xp u should get are from the bosses. If you are like ready to lvl if u get one kill....there is a way to get absolutely no xp but it is mad hard and takes forever...the way is you have the high lvl clear the entire way...then you run up start attacking then die then high lvl kills boss...because u were dead u dont get xp but when u revive at the instance u can still loot.....my advice...dont let it get to that point. Start doing WC at lvl 12-14
Note: if you have a choise of who you are getting to run you through the best would be a high lvl hunter...reason for this is that they can run through using aspect of the cheatah and if they accidentally walk into a mob they can feign death and just keep going without just getting attacked and not killing cuz u get xp.
GL to all who are trying for this bow it truly is incredible.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I was running WC, and Cobrahn dropped this.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This bow is actually quite disappointing when compared with
Light Bow
Binds when equipped
BowBow
13 - 26 DamageSpeed 1.70
(11.5 damage per second)
Requires Level 16
Venomstrike
Binds when picked up
BowBow
26 - 50 DamageSpeed 2.40
(15.8 damage per second)
Requires Level 19
Equip: Chance to strike your ranged target with a Venom Shot for 31 to 45 Nature damage.
considering you put on a +2 scope on venomstrike you will still only get a wepon around 21.6 dps while compared to light bow with a +12 scope which will hav around 22.4 dps meaning that overall light bow > venomstrike. indeed your multishot will suffer but within that regards you will be able shoot more often reducing the problem of 'missing'
评论来自
Allakhazam
Nice lil bow, dropped yesterday on my first run (and total clear) with my Orc Hunter on Eonar. He was L19 at the time, so the next couple WSGs were pretty fun.
Still usin' it at 21, lol. No Rokh 'Delar, but get ganks twinks nicely enough...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've managed to gather 130g on my level 15 main by mining, making a twink hunter with it :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can't decide if this was a gimp or not from 11.5dps +1-6 nature dmg to 9.6 chance on hit 31-45 nature dmg. As long as the proc pops a lot seems like a buff.
评论来自
Allakhazam
If you have a high level alt, a low level friend (Appropriate to WC level), and no one to run you...
Have your High level run through the instance with the friend, clear up to this boss, make sure your friend is party leader, and bring your main out of the instance, killing any re-spawned pats along the way. Leave the party, log, re-log onto your hunter, have your friend invite you, and enter the instance, run to the boss, and kill him.
He's pretty straight-foreward, I over-DPSed on my Hunter (Under-estimated my new gear), and my Boar couldn't keep the Aggro, but we lived (Well, I soulstoned, and the warlock died as the boss died after panicing and sacing his Void), and it dropped on the first try. Thank you Random Number Generator, Thank you. :P
Carrin - Level 19 Hunter - Drak'Thul
评论来自
Allakhazam
this bow is avil. to both alliance and horde and yes it drops off of serpentise probably 1 out of every 10 runs or at least for me at has. Hope this helps whoever needs to know this
评论来自
Allakhazam
wow i got mines for my hunter on my first WCs run (once on my hunter and twice 11 times 4 my friend but he never got it)lol everybody passed on venomstrike coz like i was useing a grey gun and this rogue was cheaky and went 4 need... my bro kicked him and i have the bow yay yay (my bro was hosting the WC run)
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this second time through, its nice =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
sorry about the last one(my cat hit enter)eneyway I'v just seen this bow about 5min ago and I want it so I want to know wer to find it and if it's avable to both Horde & Alince ythank you
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can alliance get this weapon?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Have done around 20th runs now, and no bow /sigh :/
评论来自
Allakhazam
The only things I've read here are about Oh I got it on my so and so run so many times. I've been wondering if anyone has any input on how well the damage fares to say Lil Timmy's Peashooter. Provided Lil Timmy's has a higher DPS, but how often does the Proc on this weapon go off?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Do u have to have the quest for the the lords and ladies to spwan? Im aliance and would love the venomstrike bow.
评论来自
Allakhazam
my god i Killed this guy like...... Bajililons of times ... all i keep getting is the Footpad boots .. and the Savage boots ... -_- im begining to think .. he doesnt drop it ?
Those who have this bow .. how many times did you kill him before he dropped it ? TIA
评论来自
Allakhazam
i finally got it after the 21st run and i was really happy.. i also got the leggins of the fang on the 22nd run so whoever didnt get it on 20th run go to one more and i bet you will get it :-D
评论来自
Allakhazam
ive been farming WC for a while on my rogue hunter and druid. hunter and rogue are twinks and just now while my rogue was running through this dropped NOTFOR MY HUNTER! i was like /twitch /depressed then i got lil timmys peashooter and everything was fine..........until the stinging viper dropped.........for my
hunter :O
评论来自
Allakhazam
droped on my first kill
rolled 97 for it after saying "NNNN" in party chat and the bastard rolled
评论来自
Allakhazam
18th time running this and i still didnt get it too drop i have been killing serpentis all the time and all he been droping is that dang boots... i got at least 10 sets of the feet of the fang or whatever... it really REALLY getting annoying.. if this is right... idk
评论来自
Allakhazam
killed lord serpentis 2 times now. dropped the bow both times
*lucky ? =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
ok, i got this bow from killing the last druid, lord fang whatever, in the Wailing Caverns, in the Barrens. He's the guy next to the Huge Tree.
评论来自
Allakhazam
They are missing the +3-6 Nature damage, bringing the DPS to 11.5.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this on my first visit in WC with a group of guildies. Had to wait 2 Levels to use it though, as I was level 17 then.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've now done WC about 15 times with several characters - never once seen this drop.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this 1st time in WC, - it's still being used. Great!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've been farming this instance for days now trying to get this bow for a wsg 19 alt and I've killed this guy at least 20 times and it hasn't dropped yet! Did blizzard change this drop in the patch or something?
评论来自
Allakhazam
my mate decied he was bored and ran me through WC at lvl 17. this dropped and so did a blue staff <living root> and a blue ring <deep fathom>
not a bad 30 minutes of my little hunters life..lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is honestly THE best bow you can get from 19-25 or so. Its got amazing dps at 19, and the proc goes off fairly often, and crits just as much. Im still using it at 35 on my hunter, so get it if you can.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I was lucky enough to get this the other week. However i dont think the Venom shot damage has gone off once. Out of at least 2 thousand shots. How often should it be going off? Should I talk to blizz?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Double post.. didn't realize there was a delay
Edited, Mar 4th 2007 2:32pm by Queight
评论来自
Allakhazam
On my hunter main running through Wc around 20 times and neither leggings of the fnag or this ever dropped now on my shamy my priest my rogue all around 2-3 time both of those pieces have dropped every single time. Strnage how luck works out lol.
评论来自
Allakhazam
He just dropped it for me last night. It was the 6th time I've killed him. So he does still drop it, and my hunter is very pleased.
评论来自
Allakhazam
this bow is avil. to both alliance and horde and yes it drops off of serpentise probably 1 out of every 10 runs or at least for me at has. Hope this helps whoever needs to know this
评论来自
Allakhazam
I lost this bow to a warrior that needed it :( because he uses bow to pull with
I can't believe that such noobs still exsist in December 2006 he even claimed to be in a BWL raiding guild....
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this wonderful piece of Bow for my Warrior, lucky enough, i was accompanied with a lvl.60 Rogue which didnt care of the drops. First time i was in WC too, so i was kinda lucky.
Edited, Fri Jul 15 13:27:36 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
yeah droped for me finaly on about my 13th run, tryed to get it for my twink 19 hunter. well its a great bow looks cool too.
评论来自
Allakhazam
haha got this and pants of the fang and sum blue cape my first rogue for twink. love it
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ran it once got it once
评论来自
Allakhazam
so is it in the night elfa rea?
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it on my first Serpentis kill, so I can verify that he does indeed drop it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
pic?
评论来自
Allakhazam
this bow is avil. to both alliance and horde and yes it drops off of serpentise probably 1 out of every 10 runs or at least for me at has. Hope this helps whoever needs to know this
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is this a good Night Elf 19 twink bow or is there a better one?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Arg, everytime I go here, he never drops it! >.<
评论来自
Allakhazam
this dropped a long time ago when I needed it, I said I needed it, and this rogue goes, "I do too", and rolls, and wins, I was PISSED
评论来自
Allakhazam
If you have the armor set Embrace of the Fang, which has a +7 bonus for nature spells and effects, will the nature damage on this bow benefit from it? If you have had both the armor and the bow and know the answer for sure from actual experience, please post a reply so everyone will know.
评论来自
Allakhazam
ran it a good 12 times NO DROPS
评论来自
Allakhazam
ok to all of you who are like "OMG I GOT IT, IT PWNS" your a noob. this is for all the people who wanna know how it compares to lil timmy's. this bow is far better for a twink hunter, it shoots faster. and hits harder, the poison doesnt proc much for me but it seems to crit alot...but the speed was the biggest thing for me, there is a secret to get this bow, for all you twinks out there who dont have alot of exp to waste...
sorry that i dont have a map
if you clear into the instance to the open room at the end of the tunnel where the aligators are, and stand against the wall where the boss is above...and have the lvl 60+ run to the top with out agro...kite the boss to right above you and kill him you should be able to get loot if it is on group loot.....if i didnt explain this right, message me on fulofcaffine or twinkmeup on firetree server
评论来自
Allakhazam
i took my cousin through and he got we got it 1st run
-------------
Eustice
Server: Skullcrusher
评论来自
Allakhazam
As somebody else posted:
Lil Timmy's Peashooter
Binds when equipped
Range Gun
26 - 48 Damage Speed 2.60
(14.2 damage per second)
Requires Level 16
Venomstrike
Binds when picked up
Bow Bow
26 - 50 Damage Speed 2.40
(15.8 damage per second)
Requires Level 19
Equip: Chance to strike your ranged target with a Venom Shot for 31 to 45 Nature damage.
What they didn't post was the ammo difference:
Sharp Arrow
Ammo Arrow
3 - 4 Damage
(3.5 damage per second)
Requires Level 10
Crafted Heavy Shot
Ammo Bullet
4 - 5 Damage
(4.5 damage per second)
Requires Level 15
Taking into account the ammo, Venomstrike is only .6 DPS higher. It is slightly faster and that will work to your advantage.
评论来自
ripgnar
I tested it with
+ 26 nature damage stat
equipped. I only had 26 procs of which my minimum was 31 damage and max was 45 damage, so it seems the + nature damage stat did not affect it otherwise I should not have been able to get the minimum 31 damage. The proc can crit.
评论来自
uxn0wn
I am beyond frustrated with blizzard about this bow. The 17% drop rate is a complete lie. Ive seen eye of rag and bindings drop more than this bow. After 43 kills, bow never dropped for me. After that, I finally realized this game is a complete total waste of time and everything. Garbage game.
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我们用
Wowhead 客户端
保证数据库的及时更新,向您提供额外的有趣的功能!
两大目的:
它还维护WoW的一个插件
Wowhead Looter
, 在您游戏时采集数据!
它将
采集所得数据
上传至Wowhead,保证数据库时刻掌握最新信息!
您可以用它追踪完成的任务、配方、坐骑、伙伴宠物以及头衔!
您还在等什么?立即
下载客户端
整装待发吧。
我们用 Wowhead 客户端保证数据库的及时更新,向您提供额外的有趣的功能!
两大目的:
您可以用它追踪完成的任务、配方、坐骑、伙伴宠物以及头衔!
您还在等什么?立即 下载客户端 整装待发吧。