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synic
omg these would rock soooo much on an enhancement shaman
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Thottbot
I dont think u realise how hard it is to get good enhancement gear on shaman.
I would die for gianstalkers!
20agi for shaman = 1% crit, 1% dodge.
So these pants nearly give shaman.
400armor
1,5%crit
1,5dodge
210hp
160mp
16spi
Hunter needs like 56 agi or whatever to get 1% crit so why dont go for +crit gear instead. Its prolly cuz you get attack pwr. But u can easily get better pants than this. Actually giantstalker leggings is so much better for u hunters...pretty much the same stats but u get 1+crit. And its so much easyer to get if these dragons are that hard as u say. So cmon giev uss shamans some friggin pvp gear.
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Thottbot
These are for either class.
They have slightly less Agi/Sta than the Dragonstalker set, but a little more than Spirit/Int.
Whoever says that Spirit/Int. is not important for hunters, I suggest you play one. That's why Dragonstalkers, a purely hunter set, has both Int/Spirit along with Agi/Sta.
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Thottbot
I�m enhance/resto shammy, been trying every single build, i also have a 60 hunter.
Got full EF set and 4 parts tenstorms.
I might not need this pants to run MC/BWL, because my main roll there is to support by putting out totems and heal, but i also help out with DPS.
But in pvp i need gear like this to boost my damage.
Why not go ele/resto then?
Simple, in an instance a shammy who nukes will burn all his mana and be useless as a healer/support.
But a shammy that mele�s has all his mana left and can do a great work as healer. THe same when it comes to pvp, if you nuke all your mana you ain�t gonna be able to heal yourself or you team mates, but if you mele, you can still do damage + heal and still nuke�when it�s needed.
Str vs Agi for enhance shammy�s, that�s simple, str is great in pve, but to gain enough burst damage for pvp you need alot of crit to ceep Flurry running 100% of the time to maximice WF proccs. This combined with either herald of Voe or Drake talong cleaver, or even a Deathbringer/shield combo, is the only way to pvp with a enhance shammy.
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Thottbot
Uhm, to be honest these pants works well for both.
I would gladly have them on my hunter, but that's because I never used my shaman for dps in endgame instances. For one reason: When I run in, get a windfury-proc and "woops! that mob just fried the whole raid because I took the aggro".
The majority of all shamans are and will always be healers.
Someone said that you could easily outdamage hunters? That is like.. 110% bull^&*!, what kind of hunters do you guys compete with?
"Yeah, I own, I outdamaged a lvl 10 hunter with my 60 shaman!". Get a clue, &*!@ing moron.
AND, the argument "these are good for my shaman in pvp!". I mean, would you guys be happy if I decided to roll on your +healing gear because I wanted to improve my Mend Pet ability? -.-'
I think not.
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Thottbot
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oh and fyi, i EASILY out damage hunters in instances. and one last time, agi gear is NOT only your gear.
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LOL! Dude, as a shaman you couldnt come CLOSE to a HALF assed played hunters on a damage meter in an end game instance son. You need to sit down, you would be aggroed and dead before you got anywhere near a hunters numbers, and they would just feign death, hop right back up and keep laying down the pain with no penalty.
Give me a break, as someone who actually HAS a enhancement shaman and a hunter you people pretty much show your ass by making comments like that. You basically just proved youve never stepped foot into MC let alot sniffed rag's ASS by saying your going to outdamage hunters in raids.
Get a grip. You might be able to pull that crap in Ustrat with a horribly played hunter with greens on, but you dont stand a chance in the real end game.
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Thottbot
I feel that these pants are certainly nice for hunters, and being alliance I don't know much about how the shammy stats work. However judging by the threads to similar gear here and elsewere it seems to benefit them greatly as well.
As far as who "should" get the loot, it really is up to the raid group and leaders. I was in a 7-guild alliance raid group that chose to let us roll for these leggings. Those who need roll. No dkp involved. This being the case, I decided to roll on these as a hunter as it is a huge immediate upgrade for me.
That being said, why did the other hunters not roll? one was in full GS, another was in full GM gear, yet another had a GS/DS hybrid. While the leggings ALONE going from GS/DS to ACL would indeed be a tradeoff in stats, but its mainly the set bonuses that would tip the scale. The other hunters have set bonuses to lose by switching, depending how many pieces.
However, in my case I had a hybrid set of BS/BDS as my toon is relatively new on the server and I will primarily be raiding. So, as a hunter (or a shaman for that matter) raids and gets geared up, this pair of pants serves as a very nice alternative when switching tier 0->tier 1 or 1->2 sets, as you tend to lose some bonus stats during the process, and this pair of leggings may offer a solid alternative to the standard set pants. It also offers versatility if one were to put a libram of voracity (cheaper, since its gonna serve more as a secondary piece), you can modify the stats somewhat to meet your needs.
These were just my 2-c about the pants. The point i'm making is this pants has versatility and can work great for multiple classes; whether or not a raid group would allow/disallow a specific class to roll on this will be on a case-by-case basis, and wouldn't really be decided on this thread anyway^^
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Thottbot
That is awsome AP for hunters and good for crit, let me see PVP shaman, go pvp, its called pvp rewards, raiding hunter, needs dps. Raiding shaman, you always heal, i never see a shaman dps so if you are raiding for this your healing thus you dont need it :)
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Thottbot
hunter just ding 60 looking for equip upgrade and i need those baad, seems like all the mobs on the site dont exist anymore :(
评论来自
Allakhazam
Holy !@#$.
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Allakhazam
FIRST
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Allakhazam
I would love a pair of these.
评论来自
Allakhazam
haha, probably the best shaman pants in the game for PvPers
评论来自
Allakhazam
A guild with a PvP shaman in a 40 man raid, does that even exist? At this level shamans and guildleaders should know what the shamans place in a raid is, and let me tell you - it ain't PvP.
But don't worry, shammies get their's too:
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Allakhazam
hunter weapon
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Allakhazam
ss here.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8760/boots9ja.jpg
Boots of the Qiraji General
Ancient Corroded Leggings
评论来自
Allakhazam
daym, thats sic, i want me some
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is pvp shaman written all over the place. What would a hunter do with spirit and intellect? At least when theres Alot spi and int
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