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评论来自 613

My precious..

评论来自 stitches

Believe it or not this IS hunter weapon. With +25 agi enchant you are looking at +122 AP. Good luck!

评论来自 jackmccrack

Whatever class that uses AP deserves this weapon. And that is all classes capable of using 2H Swords.

评论来自 wadefree85

Great PvP weapon for warriors. The combination of attack power and stamina along with the high end damage make this one of the best and more readily available 2H swords in the game.

评论来自 Aldor

Good for anyone that can equip it.

评论来自 8161

This weapon from Hakkar is a nice pickup for a warrior, nice Attack Power for a hunter if no warriors want it.

评论来自 5747

I saw a pally walking around with it, I really think a different class could put it to better use though. Not that it was a waste, just that a hunter or warrior should be able to use its fine attributes better, also hunters now value AP more the in the past due to recieving 1 AP per Agility point as of patch 2.0.1

评论来自 scottyd

I got this on my warrior and find it very use in PVP and soling mobs.

评论来自 skitzosmeagol

The 72 attack power is amazing alone, and for raptor strikes this a deadly weapon, however if you are aiming for more ranged damage than melle damage I suggest getting the following from ZG:

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=19866 +40 Attack Power

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=19865 +28 Attack Power 1% Crit

The Destroyer has 4 more attack power than when wearing these two swords, however with 1% crit it easily is compensated for. Now if you factor in enchants (+25 Agility on Destroyer) and (+15 on each sword) The Hakkari war blades end up with more attack power, more crit. This is for those ranged eat people alive hunters, where as Destroyer is for hunters who like lots of life and high raptor strikes :)

评论来自 6905

outstanding weapon for warriors, great top end damage on crits, 25agi for the crit makes it even better

评论来自 28776

my 70 hunter friend has it.. its more of a hunter wepon..

评论来自 46466

For all those people saying it's a hunter weapon, last time i checked it was a melee weapon, and I don't believe a hunter's Prime source of damage is melee. Now, with that said, If a Warrior doesn't want it, then by all means a hunter should take it, a great weapon but definetly more of a Warrior weapon for the simple fact that Warriors don't go taking Bows and stuff over hunters, so Hunters shouldnt take Melee weapons from warriors, but then again, none of this matters anymore since it is now rather worthless

评论来自 Thottbot

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/wamba681/ZinRokh.jpg

评论来自 Thottbot

why is EVERY thottbot thread an arguement of what class gets to roll on what?

if you belong to a guild that's good enough to have ZG on farm status (or any endgame instance) you know what loot agreements and point systems are.

anyone who think that saying this is or isn't a classes weapon is going to get them anywhere won't ever be in a position to get the said weapon.

评论来自 Thottbot

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Henry81/tanky1.jpg

GG I am a warriordin

Uldum

评论来自 Thottbot

/sign for Warriors
then Paladins and Hunters.

The one above:
If you are on Trashmobgrps in BWL, use UTB.
Its good for Paladins. oO

评论来自 Thottbot

Got this on my warrior tonight, hunters did not roll or even consider rolling due to their Rohk+Lohk combo.
Anyway, i had Obsidian Edged Blade before this, and noticed that it had slightly more DPS than ZRDOW, Must i respec to MS in order to notice any advantage over OEB?

评论来自 Thottbot

I have wanted this sword for a very long time. Too bad it will have to go to my HUNTER now that my warrior has The Untamed Blade. :oD

评论来自 Thottbot

HAHA, do u know that ZG is 20 man, and BWL is 40 man?

UTB>DoW, but it's easier to get DoW then UTB, so why not?

It's not class item, both hunters and warriors can have it (i actually even saw pala with it :D)

评论来自 Thottbot

Ok, all I ever see on a 2 handed thread post is how a hunter got this and had no right to even roll/bid/exist.

First off I'd like to say I would not bid on this without speaking to the warrior class officer (horde side so need to ask about pallies) for permission to bid/roll. It's bonuses are good for a hunter but will be better used by an arms spec warrior. However I am usually allowed to bid/roll on items like this for the following obvious reason.

My guild is a pvp guild that runs ZG and AQ20 for weapons & armour. I acknowledge that if a hunter is meleeing in a pve raid there is a serious problem (lava surger fights in MC are an obvious exception) and we are well aware - as some of you feel the need to remind us - that we are a range orientated class. However, everyone and their dog knows this, so what do they do in pvp against a hunter? You guessed it, do everything in their power to engage him/her in melee or in case of casters get inside his/her range.

Almost every hunter in our guild uses the 5/5 LR + scatter shot build (21/30/0 build) as it maximises your survivability in melee which is usually where you will take the biggest beating. Kiting is all well and good, but eventually a good opponent is going to get inside your range (I spend about 30% of my combat time in BGs meleeing and I'm warlord rank so I've been doing it for a while). You have scatter, feign/freeze trap & deterrance/counterattack to get out again (which is almost always the right decision). But when they are on cooldown or fail you will be locked in melee and without a decent melee weapon you will be killed.

Before I go any farther I'd like to say that I now use this weapon and was the 4th person in my guild to recieve it (passed twice, asked and was denied third time, asked and was given 4th). My RS crits are at 44% and crit 1400+ on cloth, 1100+ on leather and 700+ on plate (varies on opponents gear obviously). My aimed shot crits go for 2000+, 1500+ and 1000+ respectively. Anyone that can take a 1000+ raptor strike and tell you a hunter is useless in melee has a shaky grip on reality.

In duels I easily out-melee shamans, and with deterence and AoM a rogue finds it very hard to land a strike, while taking a decent amount of punishment. Warriors will beat you 1 on 1 but in pvp you will have wounded him before he finally gets you locked in melee and then your melee weapon decides whether you live or you die.

The cloth crits speak for themselves, the wounded mage that blinks into you to do the standard nova, sheep, AP, fireball + PoM Pyro + Fireblast combo will not kill you if the raptor strike he walks into takes off 1400+. The crits are even big enough to entirely remove a priests PWS in a single attack. Go on and tell me thats not valuable?

No, a hunter is not a melee damage specialist. No, a hunter should not be meleeing in raid pve (unless the fight actually requires no ranged damage). And in my personal opinion, a 2h weapon which a warrior and a hunter both desire should usually go to the warrior...

- (although if you use the same argument that some warriors in pve use against hunters, warriors should always be either tanking with 1h and shield, or dpsing as a plate rogue with 2 awesome 1 handers, so what do you need the weapon for? PVP and solo pve I hear you cry? Same thing as us then. The whole "it doesnt help the raid as much by giving this to a hunter instead of me" argument doesnt work unless you are a designated dps arms warrior in the raid, which if you are then by all means take it, you are the #1 priority for such a weapon and should get slow 2h high end damage weapons such as this) -

cont... BUT, anyone that says a hunter does not need such a weapon does not have a hunter himself/herself. No hunter I know only does raid instances, and outside of them a good melee weapon is not only beneficial, it is frequently the factor deciding whether you are collecting the allies fallen head, or he is taking yours.

Point being: Stop saying hunters dont need melee weapons. Everyone that can wield it needs a weapon like this in pvp and solo pve, warriors hunters paladins and enhancement shamans (obviously not this particular weapon in the case of the latter but you know what I mean). We all get the same amount of dkp from a boss, and we all take the same time to kill it. Any hunter that chooses to use his dkp on this should be understood exactly the same way any rogue or warrior bids on a ranged weapon and not get the passionate class bashing which makes me ashamed to admit I also have a 60 warrior. Thank you for taking the time to read this if you did and lastly the words which appear in our Guild Message of The Day constantly.

"Remember its a game lads, and we'll all get on fine."

评论来自 Thottbot

WHAT A SWEET MAGE ITEM!

^_^

评论来自 Thottbot

Always been my fave weapon frame in WoW. Hope blizz make a spin-off of DoW like all the tier armours.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Please put more Superior epic weapons in 20 man instances that clearly are better than those in the 40 man raid instance. Common...

评论来自 Allakhazam

I'll waiting for my Spinal Reaper cus if Blizz really nerf the melee the way they said, then the axe would be much better.

btw. Axe > Sword :D

评论来自 Allakhazam

Yes my Hunters,
take Staffs, Polearms and Maces too...

评论来自 Allakhazam

Warriors have better available. Paladins have better available. Hunters have better available.

In the end, this sword doesn't scream to be used exclusively by any one class. I won this the other day by out-rolling 4 paladins. Warriors didn't even roll.

It looks nice. It's purple. Grats to anyone that happens to get their hands on it. /salute.

Edited, Fri Oct 21 15:12:35 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

I dream of holding this weapon..

评论来自 Allakhazam

SoC is based entirely on weapon damage range, and thus the only way a pally can get decent damage is a slow hard hitting 2 handed weapon like this one, it's also why nobody uses the arcantite champion, even though it is a great sword for warriors now that they put in the normalized attack power.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This COULD be used by Hunters. BUT Hunters are a ranged class. This might be useful if you are switching out weapons for melee, but you should be trying to get away, not killing someone. You just aren't effective at close range, Survival specced or no. BSL + two 15+ agi = 56 agi, 112 RAP.

Even with ZdoW 15+ agi, that is only 102 RAP, and RAP does not figure into dodge, crit, or parry calculations. ZdoW is what you want if you go into melee to kill, which is not a good place for any Hunter to be... unless you are hoping they will take a look at this enourmous sword and just run like hell. BSL combo with agi enchantment would be what you want to equip when you are forced into melee and want to escape back to range.

edit: You may consider the added STA as an offset to decreased dodge parry calculations.

Edited, Tue Nov 8 11:18:03 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

its comically large

评论来自 Allakhazam

We got this today from Hakkar, looks are awesome:
http://sotg.sauft.org/shots/zalgradis1bm.jpg
http://sotg.sauft.org/shots/hakkardead8nk.jpg
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Sarah <Stature Of The Gods>
Al'Akir (EU) - http://sotg.sauft.org

Edited, Fri Sep 16 07:46:14 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

finally droped, managed to pick it up as i was the only dps warrior on the raid. everyone else was prot warrior, or just plain didn't want it, go figure.

Very pleased with this, much better than the unstopable force i was using plus the sword spec is much better than the 2 handed spec i was using before.

recently hit marshal in the pvp system as well, so i now have 900ap unbuffed and around 1130 buffed with battleshout

here is my profile: http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?194425

评论来自 Allakhazam

this is so a pally wep, b/c hunters suck and its too slow for a warrior

评论来自 Allakhazam

Call me odd but I think this is one of the ugliest weapons up to date. Ew.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ha...I'm gonna go for ol' Zin'rokh out of spite for one of my friends...He happens to think that "The Destroyer of Worlds" sucks as a hunter weapon. I'm gonna slap a +25 agi on it and watch as I tear him apart

评论来自 Allakhazam

What do u think, wich is better? Obsidian Edged Blade, or Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of the worlds?

评论来自 Allakhazam

I have one but just got me a Drake Talon cleaver. I choose to use that over it even though auto attack hits dont seem to be quite as hard. I would recommend this sword to all warriors firstly. It is a great mortal strike weapon and can take you to the end of MC/into BWL.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ok first off guys paladins don't deserve this weapon unless it has been passed to them. I've got a all three that can use this weapon warrior/pally/hunter. A paladin would have to burn way to much mana to make the DPS actually noticeable. For PvP yes this would be a decent weapon, but I think as far as raid priorities a paladin shouldn't be able to roll/bid on this period unless all hunters and warriors passed.

Second I wouldn't get this on my warrior unless I only wanted it for PvP. A DPS warrior thats actually good with this weapon using it to the full capability that it has would rip aggro off a tank in a matter of seconds, being that he has no aggro dropping moves, thus ending up tanking with a two hander which requires way more healing which can also cause aggro problems.

Third i've always been #1 on the DPS meter on my hunter, sometimes #2 just behind one of our good rogues. Rogues can fient which reduces aggro, and also vanish which puts them back at 0 aggro. A good hunter can blast out 5000 Dmg after 3 sunders and Feign death putting him at 0 aggro. I aquired this weapon recently on my hunter and no one in my guild questioned me period. +25 agility on it puts me at a +122 AP which is huge! not to mention the +308 hp. So it all depends on your hunters really. sh*tty hunters will never be able to fully use the capability of this weapon(which is about 90% of the hunters out there). There are plenty of fights that require melee DPS as a hunter and this weapon if used correctly is great for it. A good hunter can raptor strike a Surger(MC)or a Berserker(ZG) when they do the random charge near them and go back to the tank, then continue range dps. But some hunters just suck and won't ever be that quick. A paladin....well I hope you pvp alot and I feel sorry for your teammates that need heals while you are DPS'ing LoL.

The epic hunter staff is also terrible unless your in Winterspring soloing demons in Darkwhisper. Something which almost 95% hunters probably will never be able to do. Or for tanking Ayamiss in aq20 and a few encounters in aq40. As far as warriors or rogues rolling on MC/ZG/AQ bows that is how it should be. A hunter in MC that rolls on a ZG or MC bow is stupid and just waisted dkp or an upgrade for a warrior/rogue. The epic bow is by far better than anything you might find until the latter fights in BWL, AQ40, and Naxx.

Edited, Aug 22nd 2006 at 3:42am EDT by Zarkullen

评论来自 Allakhazam

3 Hakkar kills with crappy caster loot and on the 4th kill I got it along with The Eye of Hakkar :)
Nice loot for me... Outrolled by our tank on Primal Hakkari Kossack from Mandokir tho :(

评论来自 Allakhazam

paladin weapon fo shizzle !

评论来自 Allakhazam

Yeah,

I like this beauty got to try it out in AB. Went 44 and 2 in my one match I did.

Personally this is much better than TUF for warriors. Mace spec is basically crap. I one shotted a mage because I procced 3 extra attacks off my inital charge.

The burst damage potential is just awesome. I just need to pick up that trinket from BRD to add 2% more chance.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Hunters here so funny so i had to sign up here to comment it its defently more a pally or warrior weapon. Hunters go play with ur bow :)

And its a bit more pally in my opinion. As its a 2h

Prob wont get a good anwser but i try again.

So how dose a Pally weapon look like ? I mean its not STR/STA and not when its AGI or Defence. So whats your opinion.

I see alot of this in our guild as soon something have int its a caster but not pally (same if it have increas healing done by XX) Defence and Stamina its Warrior. Even tho i as a pally tank the core hounds just as good as a warrior :). Agi its hunter or Rogue.

评论来自 Allakhazam

yep... pally/warrior weapon. dont give me that hunter *!@# either, cause anyone can get stuck in/out of range. warriors dont roll on hunter guns or whatever, hunters shouldnt roll on this.

评论来自 Allakhazam

in my ally we have a 31/20 specced warri who is absolute DPS nr.1 with obsidian edged blade. He kills pallys with Sulfuras Hammer on our server, so that is the best example why pallies suck with high dps 2-handed weapons :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

Hunter weapon in yo fAcE! Don't call yourself a warrior if you can't tank...your a b!tch berserker. If your a warrior and argue that this is a warrior weapon and not for hunters, just /killyourself...Or wake up, respec, get yourself a shield along with a nice 1 hander and do your @#$^$# job as a meat shield!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Yeah, we all know duels means alot ):<

评论来自 Allakhazam

Why are some people so retarded? This is obviously a warrior weapon. Pallies have no dps, hunters could use it, but there are better wpns. Hunters should duel-wield and get +15 agility enchants. Dps warriors is what this was made for.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Well unfortunately for you and thankfully for people with brains your point of view sucks - and if all Warriors were meant to use one hand sword and shield try explaining our talent tree Arms which is specifically tailored for such a weapon.

And comparing a warrior's dps from this sword to a paladins dps from this sword makes you look a bigger numpty.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I have a lvl 60 warrior on silvermoon and i would do alot for this wep, but any one out there that thinks pallys are just for back up healing need to come ot my server and duel some of the ones that i know, and i will sit back and watch you get pawned. but i do agree that this is a very very good wep for any arms or fury warrior. and with the high attack pawer it is great for hunters to. BUT is the hands of a capable pally this thing will be just as deadly....sorry but some one had to say it

评论来自 Allakhazam

Finally got it today 10th hakkar kill. Very impressive.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Hunter weapon. Warriors can get untamed blade.

Besides, warriors use shields in raiding..

评论来自 Allakhazam

Arms Warrior 1st, Hunters 2nd, then ret pallies 3rd

arms warriors in our guild has moved on to better thing in naxx but how in the hell can u say this not a hunter wep. clealy u have no idea that hunters are a DPS class that are very helpful in raids. A Ret pally can be helpful in a raid but we mostly like them to be hly for some back-up healing.

Mikezilla LvL 60 Hunter
Zillune LvL 60 Warrior

and yes my hunter uses Zin over my staff...better crits and better overall DPS

评论来自 Allakhazam

Does it glow with enchants, or does it keep it's slight blue glow? (like how the hakkari blades purple glow won't get overridden by an enchant glow)

评论来自 Allakhazam

stats? who cares

that is THE coolest name for a weapon, in the game

评论来自 Allakhazam

I got wtfpwned by this sword 3 times in a row yesterday but is was a beautiful sight to behold ;)

评论来自 Allakhazam

no flaming involved here...this was going to be DE'd if i didnt take it. server first for a hunter to have it on greymane. yes we've done that much ZG

评论来自 Allakhazam

Edited, Mon Feb 20 19:29:36 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Sulfuras is 16 more DPS and is sooooooooooooooooo kick ass with crusader, im glad i have it instead of this sharp stick.

I think you forgot the strength on the Destroyer of Worlds. If you compare it with the stregths, Sulfuras has about 82 dps, while Destroyer of worlds has 75 DPS. So thats a difference of only 7 dps.

Loss in +5 crit is also corrected with the fact that humans have racial passive swords +5

Edited, Fri Jun 16 04:11:19 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

OMFG! RMT !

评论来自 Allakhazam

I've only seen hakkar fall about 5 times, and out of those 5 times this has dropped twice. rolled on it this time against another pally and got it. enjoying it :}

评论来自 Allakhazam

show me a pic of this item on a gnome, hanging on his back pls. i want to see it dragging on the ground.

评论来自 Allakhazam

lol those pictures r such a waste two gay ppl a gnome and a human girl what a waste it juss takes the effect the sword has on peopel

评论来自 Allakhazam

this is a dps weapon, paladins !@#$% about not having any dps yet put a claim to this sword. and due to the fact every major guild would agree and acording to every raid damage meter this is definatley a dps warrior wep. im a mage so dont think im taking sides. My mate has this and when it dropped it was quite obvious a warrior was getting it

评论来自 Allakhazam

Not to popular with Warriors for long. Much better can be achieved in 40 man instances, and if you are running ZG you most likely will be reaching far in 40 man zones.

This is usually between a Hunter and a Paladin. A Hunter would take for stats, but may not because using the two hakkari blades with enchants in slightly better.

Paladins can get a lot of 2h after warriors or before or at the same time. A smart hunter would get one with decent stats, such as this.

评论来自 Allakhazam

OK about this sword.....

Its not as useful for Hunters as it is for Pallys or Warriors. Hunters mainly use their range for DPS, not melee, even if they can do it sucessfully. Paladins and Warriors require melee to do any sort of damage and in that sense, this sword is more attuned for them with Warriors have priority over all other classes. This weapon is great for Retrobution Paladins because they gain so much more of a bonus that any type of Hunter would.

Hunters do need the attack power but most of them DE this weapon after they get their epic staff from quest line. Hunters using this are probably in a guild that uses DKP and probably outbidded a warrior to get it. Most guilds who use rolling to win items in ZG dont allow Hunters to roll on it for the fact that they get better off of 1hd axes, or 2hd axes such as Dawn's Edge and other such weapons that give agility as the main stat.

I really dont care if Hunters have it but Hunters dont deserve to roll against the melee classes or Warriors and Pallys because they need it a lot more that hunters do.

Have fun raiding in ZG =D

评论来自 Allakhazam

ok listen here all you stupid hunters wanting better dps weapons not only do you guys not deserve this particular sword but all particular dps melee weapons all there doing for you guys is giving you better stats and making your back look preety. on my pally i plan on gettin this sword and put 22 intel on it just for that last post about paladins zarkullen

评论来自 Allakhazam

ok .. pallies wanting this weapon .. one word NO!

arms warriors and hunters should all be bidding on an equal footing for this sword admittedly the +72ap is frikkin awesome for hunters however lets not forget that warriors benefit from that AND its "fits like a glove" arms damadge profile it has a higher maxx damadge than obsidian edged blade which will make for prettier bursts. it fits the "slow and meaty" arms warrior damadge profile perfectly.

to be honest i am half tempted to tell hunters to roll on something else .. the 72 ap is universal and will apply to warriors as well and a hunter will be making no use of the weapons innate ability to reak havok he might as well be wearing a stick with +72 ap on it. So hunters before you yell at your raid 72ap omfghunterlewtftw ore some gibbersish like that spare a thaught for the warriors who your depriving of perhaps the most beautiful melee weapon in the game and one that was clearly made just for them.

and incidentally im a warrior im prot most of the time but i go arms at weekends to take in the pvp and my god this sword is fun if your an arms warrior .. critting for about 1000 damadge with my whirlwinds ;) and more with my ms's.

评论来自 Allakhazam

man stop dissin palas we may not do as much dmg but i crit white for 1300 roughly with unstoppable force with SO crusader and couple that with a crit with SO command and u have 2.7k dmg. then add in my holy shock (800 dmg) 1400 crit then if i have SO command add in the hammer of justice stun combo with the judgement of command and u have a crit of 800. then wait the 3.80 or 3.90 cant remember then u repeat. so thats 6800 if all abilities crit in less than 2 seconds in battle. no class can do this much in 2 secs coz no other class has this many instant cast. now couple that with the judgement of the crusader holy dmg boost to those crits.

even without crit u can guess that no mage or priest could survive against me. out of all classes i only fear fire mages and warlocks.

and the real surprise i only have 6 epics. (weapon shoulder gloves belt boots legs)

btw protection pallies are dumbasses unless they belong to a PVP guild and prolly every PVP guild do raids.

but a holy/ret pala with a shield is not a noob after spending 40 gold the best talent builds for PVP and PVE is 33/05/11

now to move on to why palas dont last long in pvp to kill most enemies

firstly they have to learn combos

here is the pwnage combo

SO crusader --> judge imediately --> SO Command + a 2 hander --> holy shock --> hammer justice --> judge again --> rebuff SO command and repeat.

rule one: when fightin against a caster or shaman its best to use up half your mana to cause dps then save the rest. heal when nessessary and use bubble if in emergency. when they are out of mana u have the advantage of plate armor defense. now wipe them out.

rule two: dont solo a lock most will kill you in a large number of ways from DOTs to DOTs fear to DOTS charmed to DOTs and DOTs etcetc.

rule three this applies to hunters mages and wars. these guys slow palas down. a pala has no ranged attack so if the movement sped is slowed the other classes can pick him off. have blessin of freedom in your bar at all times it could save your ass especially from those 3 classes.

rule four: many rogues boast they can kill palas easily. this is only because most palas dont know how to fight rogues. a rogue typically ambushes u stuns and rips u to shreads. but a rogue your level cannot kill u very fast it will take at least 10 seconds. the minute u lose 1/4 hp start healin holy light. he will prolly stun. then once out of stun start healin again he will stun again with a different ability. at this stage a rogue will do two things. he may run like a chicken if he knows whats gonna happen to him next. o he will fight which will be his end. at this stage a rogue will have some abilities on cooldown. so he will do moderate damage over time rather than the full rip and kill multi combos. now u have 2/3 mana left plently to kill a rogue. enjoy your kill and use blessin of freedom. if your a human paladin your kill may get wise and atempt to run. the miunte u notice hes tryin to get away and he has 1/3 of his hp left then stun him. if this aint possible use your racial perception ability and take him out when he stealths. if your a dwarf then hope he doesnt get wise and try to run.

a rogue does better in pvp when gangin people if ure the target of a rogue its likely another enemy is watchin the stealthed rogue waitin to attack whatever target the rogue attacks so when this happens and u have more than one enemy near you its best to use divine shield. but remember it's cooldown.

sorry about the spellin mistakes try to guess the words.

written by Hyperion Hakkar Europe Paladin

评论来自 Allakhazam

guys i dotn see how you can lsoe 5% critchanse by wielding this weapon or am i readin it wrong?

Explain plz.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I have a tank spec'd Pally and find that I always do more damage than the Warriors.

Warriors should use one-hander + shield because they can handle the damage for longer and can hold threat essentially giving all the other players time to deliver group damage. Meanwhile the Pally is /assisting the warrior with the big two hander and can dish out some serious damage.

Im pretty sure that this combination will acheive more damage and a better result. Why have the pally with a 1 hander + shield because a good warrior will hold threat.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Last night against Ragnaros our MT went with DoW after the Sons. Our raid leader's incredulous "Are you using a 2 hander?" was absolutely priceless.

Edited, Sat Feb 4 09:33:44 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Treehugr, i can't believe you survived the fall from the stupid tree. Before you try to tell someone how to play their class, maybe you should have rolled said class. Blizzard should require a miminun IQ to play this game.

评论来自 Allakhazam

If a hunter or a pala gets this then its a waste of a weapon for sure.

评论来自 Allakhazam

For PvE this wep is Hunter wep, unless its a DPS warrior whos hungry for it, FIRST DPS, i repeat DPS warriors, THEN Hunters..Pallys will just have it to run around in IF looking great, same with Prot/tanking warriors..Hunters can get 122 Ranged Attack Power from it (+25 agi enchant = 50 RAP)..and that is SWEET! dps warrior, THEN hunter..pala last, if he is DPS at all..(dps pala woot?)

Edited, Aug 6th 2006 at 2:11am EDT by Bakdeg

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Woot I got It today for my hunter! After Patch 2.01 all the warriors are getting their GM claymores and hunters are getting priority in my guild over other classes cause Attack Power just became too important for a hunter to pass. 72 AP = needs 72 agility . Well what can i say its still awsome. And i got My Grand Marshal Hand Cannon just 2 hours earlier ... talk about an upgrade XD And Unfrotunatly we are a pre - MC guild , but now everyone is just getting the Gm weopons and we are filling our slots with items we cant get a replacement for through pvp

Edited, Dec 12th 2006 10:44am by medicinefreak

评论来自 Allakhazam

I would take this weapon above Spinal Reaper any day, lots of stamina and atk power, nice slow speed and good max dmg.

And imo Sword Spec is much better than Axe spec, sword spec gives 6% chance to get and extra attack and it can proc on about everything, nothing beats the feeling of a hamstring+700+700 <3

评论来自 Allakhazam

how could any warrior not want this item?
do they know what is 72attack power and 28 stamina, combined with 3.80 speed and nearly 65dps?
kick the tards from guild, my suggestion.
kthxbai.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Warriors should use a 1h and sheild so that paladins can get their hands on a sword like this? Right mate, you need to go home and rethink what you just said.

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Yeah, a warrior weapon. But you'd be out of your mind if you could use a 2h sword, whatever your class, and didn'tt try to bid/roll on this.

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GO BACK TO THOTTBOT WE DOnt WANT U HERE

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In 1.10 there will be a new enchant for +25 agi.to 2h. This sword w/ that enchant will rock for a hunter. I understand it goes to warriors first but I will wait my turn :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

Stop it!

This is an awesome sword for:

Warriors -- Awesome damage range, sword spec, Sta and AP

Paladins -- Awesome damage range, DPS, Sta and AP

Hunters -- Awesome damage range for Raptor Strikes..., Sta and insane AP

Its great for all three. That's it; I am also a warrior...

评论来自 Allakhazam

so pretty

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Wow, you know i think i saw that female NE the other day

i dont really like to post on these damn forums cuz ppl apparently just enjoy ^&*!@ing but i'll make an exception this time.

THAT SWORD LOOKS FUKIN SWEET

but i still cant wait to get Barb of the Sandreaver and any dumfuk warrior who argues with me on that, i will shoot your ass down in a heartbeat.

Llane Server FTW!
and also when you see a dwarf and/or gnome with this give him a hug, cuz he's probably beat the sh!t out of a Tauren with this sword and a screenshot of that my friends would be priceless

评论来自 Allakhazam

dropped for my guild 3 times so far since we have hakar on farm well get alot more for bg purposes and btw im a hunter that uses it and strikers mark and i do like the added dps, soon to finish my demons then its on to the rok fun sword i have hit 1200 raptor strikes and im a 5/41/6 spec so it would be neat to see a survival spec hunter hit somethin with it

评论来自 Allakhazam

sweet ass wtf
i'm takin that for my MS warrior even if i'm 6% down on crit form my ice barb

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mediumrarekj: Are you retarded? The weapon is absolutely loaded with stamina and AP. That's EXACTLY WHAT HUNTERS NEED. This is by far the best 2h hunter weapon in the game, and isn't even remotely close to being the best for any other class.

评论来自 Allakhazam

"I am become Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds"

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Got it 3 days ago for my warri. Hunter and pallys wasnt allowed to roll on this. First warri thats why i got this. And damn u always hunterwaepon. This sword ist one of the best waepons for MS Warri ingame. http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/2131/mywarri9qt.jpg

What a hawt Nelf Warrior u got <3

评论来自 Allakhazam

First of all, I don't see any text on this weapon that says 'Class: Warrior'

I am a paladin myself and paladins are backup healers in raids. ofcourse.
Though when it comes to this weapon it could go either Paladin, Warrior or Hunter and it wouldn't even make much difference! Like paladins are healers in raids, warriors are tanks in raids. A warrior that uses a 2h in a raid is like a paladin that goes DPS in a raid.

If you want DPS, go get another rogue or mage or lock inside, don't get a 2h warrior! And all warriors should always use a 1h + shield because there are always trashmobs to tank or adds to tank. At bosses you always need to make sure aggro is being hold or you have to back the MT up if he loses aggro!

so this 2h weapon is just as useless to a warrior as to a paladin in a raid.
It is a very good weapon in pvp though, but since pvp is a whole other story, I think this weapon should go to ANY paladin, warrior or hunter no matter who needs it most, they got equal rights and should go on dkp

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First time for us to go after Hakkar, we wiped twice, then said "one more time before calling it quits for the night." Downed him on the third try. I got the heart and one of our Hunter's, NE female (Go Cove!), got this, and she looks great with it. Wonderful sword for anyone who can use it. Plus it looks awesome. We've only been able to down Hak once more since. That guys a pain.

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Dropped last night. Fourth Hakkar kill. Very happy warrior, I am. :D

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Its DPS Warrior, Hunter, Paladin.
Never saw a "dps paladin" in raids...so why do you want to take it away from the dps guys?
sit down and drink your manawater...
If rolling is on then the dps Warrs are allowed to go for it first, and after they all get it then hunters. sry but no hunter roll against warriors as while simply:
Warrior gets dps, stats upgrade.
Hunter gets stats upgrade. (and then a dps upgrade from the stats)
Also its shiny!

评论来自 Allakhazam

very nice pally/warrior wep...not hunter at all..

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heavymetal... literally =P

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4064/tehblade5ud.jpg

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ok.. what i dont understand is why people always have to argue over who gets what.. its always going to be a different scenario depending on server type and guild blablabla.. maby all the warriors already have amazing two handers and whatnot and the pallies get *!@#ed weaponwize just like they always do, and its their turn for weps.. i donno, but comon.. why does everyone always have to argue about such stupid crap. if a pally isnt allowed to bid on this in your guild then ok, but maby your warriors or hunters or w/e dont want it(stupid if they dont), or maby they already have good weapons. if it is a pvp server, then i think its just as fair for a pally or hunter or warrior to bid.. if your in a PVE guild on a pve server on horde then warriors will bid because hunters dont rely on melee as much as ranged in MC and such, on alliance, same thing, but depending if pallies are considered healers or melee in that guild it could be different. you guys have to remember, everyone earns their points, yes some classes can put items to better use than others but it doesnt mean those other classes dont need them.

Edited, Sun Sep 25 07:54:04 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

Pally in MC = healer
Hunter in MC =puller and range DPS
Warrior in mc= dsp mele and tank

Pallys in pvp are not ment to dps but to decurse heal and stay alive for long periods of time so they can keep healing and decurseing. Pallys have plate to be able to survie a rogue attack and still heal not go in and kill things with a nice big 2h

Hunters mele slot for weps is just for buffs if you need this in pvp learn to kite and play your class all you spells in pvp that are mele are based on getting you out of mele range.

Warriors, this is a warrior wep only.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This must be the coolest looking weapon in the game so far

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Yup, just instended to use it for pvp

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I have a feeling there will be at least 1 person to call me a noob for this but I got a pally and I plan on geting this sword sooner or later. Every one fighting over this sword plays the game a little to much and need to take a break go for a walk in the park or something. The reason Im going to try to get it for my pally is because I use seal of the crusader the +40% attack speed at the cost of some damage helps out alot. Every wep I used that with my dps went up by at least 9 but I plan to get the sword and use it alot. Im one of the pallys that will jump right into the fight and dont complain about it I was going to do a tanking warrior but I wanted the extra protection and some healing to keep myself alive. but great wep for anyone who can use it. Oh theres one thing I gotta say .....why does every single person use the same exact equipment/build I wanna see people mixed up a little more do random things.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Wednesday April 19th

Realm: Magtheridon

Guild: R U N

Character: Onlymortal

ONLY warriors should get this, and only after they do are other classes are allowed to roll, i mean we dont roll on your epic bows and guns do we?

Edited, Fri Apr 21 08:36:02 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

ill never see it. the loot gods dont like me

Edited, Jun 25th 2006 at 5:45pm EDT by fulkrum

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this > rok, just for the looks....i have the leaf, soon sinew and 4 demon heads, but i seriously want this :) would love to see my NE fem with the cool sword fighting art, bringing this sword over the warriors head
*xxx's envy hits xxx for 12382395. xxx quit's WoW*
and i have lack of AP, in spite of incredible crit rate sooo this works fine :P besides its the only 2 hander with AP in BWL and MC (drake talon axes and stuff in BWL, but those are warrior classified) and it and rok are only weapons till AQ (omg i want barb of the sand reaver -.-)

评论来自 Allakhazam

This weapon is a warrior/paladin weapon...hunters go DIAF! Hunters after this and ashkhandi should quit the game because they waste the dps. At least a paladin uses the fact that the weapon hits hard as ****. If warrior needs than it should be theirs but if not paladins should have second dibs. God**** a hunter with this or ash is a disgrace to the weapon. /rantoff

评论来自 Allakhazam

for all you hunter hating warriors..

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?775460

now go whine more.. guilds choose how loot is shared out, NOT you

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 8:08pm EDT by kazmeisterkott

Edited, Sep 8th 2006 at 8:10pm EDT by kazmeisterkott

评论来自 Allakhazam

Clearly a Hunter weapon.
Well honestly:
I'd say its Warrior, Paladin and Hunter weapon. Im not so sure about kekadins but atleast on a hunter this weapon rocks. wtb better model.

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i would say it goes dps-war/hunter/pala and i say this as a skilled hunter

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Now with agility! *thumbs up*

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Look guys this wep is for a Warrior Warrior should get 1st dibs then Hunter oh yeh HUTERS CAN'T COMBAT DNT TRY then Loladins should get dibs on it because Warriors are melee Hunters do ranged Loladins supposed to heal but some WANT TO DPS AND TANK IF U ARE A LOLADIN WHO WANTS TO DO A WARRIORS JOB JUST BE A WARRIOR take my advice and let warriors get 1st dibs then Hunters then Loladins

评论来自 Allakhazam

warrior -> hunter -> paladin

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It isnt that great for a warrior unless you can push 35% ish critchance in Battlestance without any speccs. It might be better for ten minute fights in damage meters, but there is no way it is better for PvP. SLightly higher damage but 5% crit loss isnt worth it IMO.

That polearm, however is rather wicked. I wonder what sort of 2hd axe there is in ZG >=D

评论来自 Allakhazam

Nice, 20man raids dont make anything easier dumbass. In case you didnt know, Hakkar is a LOT harder than Garr, GG.

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All I can say is wtf did you guys let a pally roll? Ours wouldn't have I doubt, not if our warriors needed. And about the sword/axe spec, we have a couple dps warriors in our mc raid. The one using obsidian edged blade out dps's Reaper/ms build and deathbringer/something fury build.

The math stated above is correct. Why any warrior would pass on this (not sure if they did but if they did they need a smack) and let pally's take is totally beyond me....

And yes, Hunters could make good use of this, but much better in a warriors hands.

评论来自 Allakhazam

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yesterday one guild killed Hakkar on my server and that pretty dropped. Guess what? Hunter bought it for DKP. Nuff to said

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I would love this on my tauren hunter but wouldnt want to be considered a ninja for rolling.
how do yall feal?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ive got it. :p

Feels pretty good.

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Dropped for a guildie in UBRS today off of the Beast.

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lol it's only drops by Hakkar in ZG -.-

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Got this yesterday for my hunter only me and our MT rolled for it , he won but passed for me as he only wanted it for fun being a real tank in MC/BWL/AQ40 he didn't really need it <3 Vigil

the raid ended at 01.45 so i'm gonna get +25 agi for it tomorrow :D

Edited, Thu May 18 06:16:54 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Second kill of Hakkar by Synergy and I got this bad boy and my guild even enchanted +25 for me there Hunter Officer

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Last night we downed hakkar and whislt waiting for the usual crap to be shown, we seen this everyone passed for me.

We have 3 people in the guild who have this.

Myself - Warrior
Doomakos - Warrior
Astersheran - Hunter

Be good when the hordes are trying to gank us outside BWL
we can just pull these bad boys out and own them xD.

Guild: Golden Dawn
Server: Chrommagus
Faction: Alliance

Edited, Jan 10th 2007 4:49am by Tomblanch

评论来自 Allakhazam

Well, I guess I'll be first to say it; bye bye to Mr. Arcanite Reaper. This has the same speed, more stamina, and more attack power. Albeit you lose 5% crit over a reaper, but the damage is greater no matter how you slice it. This is probably the new MS king of weapons unless you're able to get to rank 14.

Edited, Fri Sep 16 01:35:22 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

reaper was said goodbye to when TUF came out ;/

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dropped on Kil'Jaeden - EU just 5 minutes ago :]

beware of Texx ;-]

评论来自 Allakhazam

Obliviously it is a druid weapon
idiots...

评论来自 Allakhazam

If you roll horde *cough* better* *cough* then you dont have to worry about dumbass pallys needing or greeding yet.

评论来自 Allakhazam

four kills, three drops. yeesh.

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Who.. the... &*!@... lets... a... GNOME... win that item...

评论来自 Allakhazam

warriors and paladins have the same right to roll on it, or paladins dont attack?

评论来自 Allakhazam

As a Hunter, I would clarely wield this weapon if I got the chance, since I am horde, there are no bubbleboys in my group, so if Warriors in my group don't want it, then it's aaaall mine.

Horde ftw. :D

Edit:

To the post above, the Warriors axe spesialation gives +5% crit change with axes, the sword spes. don't, or am I wrong?

Edited, Sat Sep 17 14:37:34 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

Would like this one on my hunter. And I wouldn't have much competition about it neither, since it ain't that good for a warrior, and im horde, so no need to watch out for pallas

评论来自 Allakhazam

Got it 3 days ago for my warri. Hunter and pallys wasnt allowed to roll on this. First warri thats why i got this. And damn u always hunterwaepon. This sword ist one of the best waepons for MS Warri ingame. http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/2131/mywarri9qt.jpg

评论来自 Allakhazam

Zin'rohk = 106.5 RAP, .283 crit, 308 HP
this is on a hunter with lightning relfexes and survivalist, +15 agi on weapon. This is not good.

Boneslicing hatchets: 124.2 RAP 1.057 crit 110 HP

owned.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ok this is for warriors only, pallis stay the #$%^ away if one needs it. and u noob " this is so a pally wep, b/c hunters suck and its too slow for a warrior" pallis ^&*!ing suck! and to slow my ass! arcanite reaper is the same speed and i dont see you saying thats a palli wep! ltp..

Edited, Wed Apr 5 21:58:17 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Id definately say this weapon is equal for both Warriors and Hunters. It has a pretty awesome look too =P

评论来自 Allakhazam

this sword is probally the niceset sword i have ever seen as the first person says look at the fuking thing

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All that say it isnt good for a hunter, here are the facts: lots of war only weapons that give str that are easier to get from mc/aq20. Too much competition involved in getting core hound tooth, warblades and fang etc. Last of all if a pally is meleeing and AP is so vital then he should just reroll warrior or stick to dispelling.

Im a 0/21/30 hunter and this pops out 129.5 AP with LR and +25 agi. If your guild lets you have it then go for it. Luckly for me we had all prot wars and pallies werent allowed it so i got it first time i killed hakkar( think first or second time it ever dropped for guild)

Edited, Oct 22nd 2006 at 12:24am PDT by teladaa

评论来自 Allakhazam

Sword Spec is better than Axe Spec anyways

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clearly a hunter wpn :O

评论来自 Allakhazam

http://servedguild.com/gallery.php?m=show&i=259

BLING
looks so amazing

评论来自 Allakhazam

Since most people use dkp i think just use your damn points how you want to and stop saying its for a certian class.

Besides that lovely weapon if not any thing the look of it

评论来自 Allakhazam

This thing looks awesome! I would even wait out until my guild is outfitted past this (or whatever) just to get this for looks... :)

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2/2/06 Killed Hakkar this droped and I had the most dkp. (No Warriors really needed it.)

http://img136.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc177&image=9a1e0_HitNewellDOW.jpg

Edited, Sat Feb 4 21:23:53 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

im a pallie and im going to get this is sword cause it has good damage and a great proc rate besides it doesnt save Warrior class on the sword so its not restricted to certain classes.If you can use a two hander get this if you want (unless your a nub or casting class pallie not included) Plus if your guild is able to kill hakkar you wont chave a long debate over who gets this

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Commence crying Pally Haters - http://suprfile.com/get.php?id=cbnh6z&get=1

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since when do hunters need attack power .....its a warrior/pally weapon

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This > halberd of smiting, info from someone who has used both, not opinions plex.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Got this on my pally last night,good upgrade from zulian stone axe,and i can tell u its not as waste really,if a paladin crit and seal of command crits u can deal a good amount of damage. A warrior could probably make very good use of this weapon as well.I do agree that if a hunter gets it,its truely a waste of a weapon.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Grats on that, shame to see it on a Paladin as it's clearly a Hunter weapon.

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Someone even did an extensive test to prove it. Swords with the same stats as axes did more damage over time and more burst damage taking everything (weapon stats, deep wounds) into consideration.

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True, there are much better weapons for W/Pala out there for guilds completing MC. Many also wait for their spinal.

While it is true that hunters (try to) rarely use melee; we use them for our ranged stats. And they're definitely nice. I'll just pray the bubbleboys and W pass on it, wouldn't roll against them though.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I Hate to argue, but seeing as most people are quite retarded on these forums. this is a 2H weapon. So any class that can use a 2H weapon is eligible for the weapon. no class gets this in preference. Warriors can use it, Pallies can use it and Hunters can use. So keep you mouthes shut and stop with the stupid arguments.

M

评论来自 Allakhazam

..Still this weapon is preferably for HUNTER!1

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as i priest i hate this thing in bg's
me "flash heal"
then
5 of theseare flying in my face and boom ! im steamrolled

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Mini Ashkandi :O

Compare stats and see :D

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I'm scared, a level 70 WARLOCK started a trade with me, and shown me this weapon in the WILL NOT BE TRADED box. I screamed,"WHY THE !@#$ DID YOU HAVE THAT?"

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have to aggree with the guy 2 post down...

warriors first for sure... +28 stamina, tons of MS dmg coupled with a massive +72 AP... very nice indeed...

at this lvl however, hunters CAN have melee weapon(S) of equal or greater USABILITY... coz thats the only reason a hunter equips melee... for stats (imo)

btw: first time i saw this beast it was on a paladin... (pics)

评论来自 Allakhazam

I would totally take this over the arcanite reaper any day, it pwns especially on a gnome.

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got it the other day. pwnzor weapon :D
pic: here

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Hakkar dropped it two nights ago for my guild. If your guild is worth anything there won't be any arguing over who gets it. One of the hunters in my guild ended up getting it, and we were all pretty damn happy for him. Let's face it, this game, especially end game instances, is about teamwork and camaraderie.. there shouldn't be any fight over who gets it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

ofc this is an awesome MS warrior weapon. But as in my guild all warriors already have something better (rank 14 sword or untamed blades) I got this for my hunter. Great for pvp ^^

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hehe, sorry, always wanted to say that:p

Im going for this sword because its awesome in stat and it LOOKS awesome.

Yes I run 40 man instances, I have full might now.

Yes I know there are swords with better stats..
I just love these looks.

Seriously, how can anything compete to a sword thats called "Destroyer of Worlds"?

Whats that you got there?
Oh this? nothing its just the DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

bwahahaha. Hakkar, I'm coming for you!

评论来自 Allakhazam

I am troubled with the Attack power of this weapon. Strength will be multiplied with buffs in a raid, where Attack power is not.

when you devide the attackpower in 2, you get the strength it would do, but it wont be multiplied. So its 36 strength, but not multiplied by the Gift of the wild.

Therefor i think this weapon is not so good for a warrior. I have the Manslayer of the Qiray, which has 35 strength and i think its better for PvE

评论来自 Allakhazam

23 kills no drop

评论来自 Allakhazam

Man the +28 stam is killer, i would pick this over OEB any day.

Edited, Aug 14th 2006 at 1:38pm EDT by Zumie

评论来自 Allakhazam

Such a nice sword... Too bad it never drops for us.

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20+runs and i always miss tha damn thing.....

评论来自 Allakhazam

20+ kills and never droped once, and I know that when it does, a warrior that has only been there 1 or 2 times will out roll me.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Hunter first, then Warrior, then Pally. There are better weapons for the melee classes but this is the best 2hander for hunters in game.
Warriors get real. +power is clearly a hunter stat and along with +sta they are some of the most important things a weapon can give them.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I think this is great for any class that can get thier hands on it ie Warriors, PAllies and yes hunter's (oh yeah shammys for the hord i think) most of you ppl who say Hunter weaponf ZOMG of Warrior FTW probalby think i'm an idiot cuz well i don't agree with either of you. The attack power any class can use adn the stamin well every body loves stamina case closed

评论来自 Allakhazam

Tauren warrior.

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Okay jeez...
Pali... prolly not.
Warrior definitely
Hunter definitely...

That added attack power goes into Ranged too...
so just having that thing equiped means a hunters arrows do more damage... stfu noobs.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I would give this to a pally ONLY if the MT or any other warrior does not need it or want it. Or course it would go to the warriors first, not even a question.

But of course, if the warrior has Ashkandi, which is basically the same as this weapon, just better, this should definetly go to a pally or another warrior.

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To the nub who thinks that hunters are crit dependant...do you play a hunter? I got this sword the day I hit 60 on my hunter...very nice...72 ap with a +25 agil enchant makes for some serious ap. Um...as far as Lok'Delar...it's actually not as good as Zin...if it were they'd give it to hunters on the test realms...but they dont. Hunters usually get Zin because of the AP and +25 agil chant. Luckily for me it was a non dkp run that I got it on...it isnt cheap

评论来自 Allakhazam

uhm guys explain to me how you can lose 5% critchanse by wielding the weapon am i jsut reading this worng?

explain!

评论来自 Allakhazam

double post -.-

Edited, Sun Sep 25 07:57:00 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

How does this help hunters? The good ones are never in mele and only the bad ones will need this to win fights.

Ironicly the bad ones that need this wep to win will never see it in their lives

评论来自 Allakhazam

Hunter first, then Warrior and Pala. I'm not joking. Melee classes can get better weapons, but for hunters, this has the best 2hand weapon stats in the game (except Lok'Delar but that's a staff and doesn't feel right :P). Paladin talking btw.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Warblades of Hakkari>Boneslicing hatchets>Zin'rokh

this is of course taking 15 agility enchants in consideration

Only reason I'd use Zinrokh is for PvP, but I have Lok'Delar so I have that covered.

So I'd say Warriors first, then hunters.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I have to say, this is a nice sword for whomever is lucky enough to get their hands on it, but this endless argument about "Hunter weapon ZOMG!1" and "Warrior weapon FTW!oen" is extremely cliche and makes you all look like mentally handicapped pre-pubescents. Have a nice day.

Qaadolip
Gnome Warrior
Burning Blade

评论来自 Allakhazam

#$%^e thats a big blade...

评论来自 Allakhazam

This normally would go to someone in the group who will put it to use... It won't be going to anyone who "would use it for soloing" lol.

So, pally, hunter, warrior or whatever. You better be using it to crack some skulls in the raid, because it's too good not to be put to use.

评论来自 Allakhazam

There is 25 agility enchant to 2h ftw, screw bone hatchets

评论来自 Allakhazam

Seen on too many tiny alliance femmes here.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v391/whitesilence/zinrokh.jpg

Horde females ftw.

Edited, Sat May 6 06:30:40 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Sulfuras is 16 more DPS and is sooooooooooooooooo kick ass with crusader, im glad i have it instead of this sharp stick.

评论来自 Allakhazam

in all of 30-40 hakkar kills, my guild hasnt seen this drop

EVER

评论来自 Allakhazam

I got one of my alts to exalted with zandalar and only saw it drop once. ;\
I finally got it and loved it though, its a great weapon till you can pick up a GM 2hander as a warrior.

评论来自 Cridi

Cant wait to roll of this with my hunter against a arms warrior. <3

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辛洛斯，诸界的毁灭者

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双手	剑

196 - 295伤害	速度 3.80

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+28 耐力
耐久: 120 / 120

需要等级 60
装备： +72 攻击强度。

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