评论来自 1898

I was speaking with a warrior friend who recently began playing in BC earlier this week, and I was talking to him about how he felt fury compared to MS when it came to leveling. He had told me that with using the Maladath as a fury warrior that he was able to grind mobs for quests pretty effectively, and it also helped out a great deal for tanking.

So, my belief on it is if you could pick this up and OH it with say a Ancient Qiraji Ripper or an Iblis, Blade of the fallen Seraph, you would be in pretty good hands as a warrior or a rogue.

评论来自 4956

This isn't going to be worth much come patch due to the weapon skill nerf. I'd be looking for a new offhand rogues and warriors.

评论来自 Devnul

The parry is nice, and weapon skill grants .4% crit, which I guess is ok, but this isn't nearly as useful as it used to be.

评论来自 kaztal

This weapon will be useless in terms of dps (not sure about tanking - i'm just a rogue). +skill is getting nerfed to oblivion and everything that has +skill on it shouldn't be touched with a fifty yard pole.

评论来自 7213

Got this for tanking with a few months ago. With the +4 weapon skill it was awsome.
With the weapon skill nerf. both it and my human racial are going out the window.

评论来自 Thottbot

Not that a Gnome mage would ever wield one but....

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7113/sword8of.jpg

评论来自 Thottbot

Ever heard of this thing called dressroom?
Anyway, we are freaking mad about this sword, we've killed broodlord for over 20 times now and only one of these babies has dropped so far. Went to a rogue ofc, and for that as a priest i'm happy to continue healing him =)

评论来自 Thottbot

quel is better for tanking

评论来自 Thottbot

Most who have a clue recognize that this weapon is better than Quel'Serrar for tanking, although tanks may not want to take it in order to save their wad of dkp for something better.

评论来自 Thottbot

I just enjoy sitting back dual weilding this and the Quel because im bored crapless with my 3.4 speed Bonereaver's Edge and need something refreshing once in a while. Didnt cost me a lot of Dkp and it dropped last night on my guilds first BL kill.

评论来自 Thottbot

In all honesty this is more of a rogue/fury warr wep because of the +sword skill. Yes is does have the parry but just get your guild to make you a black guard which is better. Also the +sword skill for threat is bogus just because all the tanks in my guild say they have no problem keep aggro with their quel,blackguard, or spineshatterer. (which is why thunderfury should go to a rogue or dps fury warr).
So really from what our tanks tell me is that they would rather have stam etc than this weap. Still Don't get me wrong it is nice for tanking but there are better that are easier to get. And to the post above dude I have 4.5k on my ROGUE so really get some gear. Also wouldn't it be nice to have more health when you DONT parry.

评论来自 Thottbot

No one denies that Quel'Serar is an excellant tanking weapon, but its cost and availability put it out of reach for some. I don't have one because I have never seen one on AH for a price I am willing to pay, at the moment I am tanking with BL's Defender because I am too nice to take a Maladath off a DPS class who wants it and as of yet only one Spineshatter has dropped.

And to the guy who said TF isn't good for tanking L2P, the proc generates lots of agro and it slows their attack speed, which makes healing the tank easier. It also has very good DPS and a nice speed.

评论来自 Thottbot

I'm a prot spec'd warrior....and ended up getting this sword. After swinging the Quel for +/-8 months...it was refreshing to get something new. I'm loving this thing. I'm an OT in our raids and often end up pulling aggro off the MT since getting this sword. All the numbers and science aside....this sword places me higher in the damage meters, gives me better aggro, and is an all around kick ass tanking sword. I like it better than the Quel and have used it exclusively since getting it. And out soloing.....DW'ing Quel and Maladath simply rocks.

评论来自 Thottbot

20 weeks. and it hasnt dropped a singe time yet...
4 heartstrikers so far...
and just about every other "odd" item he drops... no sword.

评论来自 Thottbot

it would be cool to wield this and nightmare blade

评论来自 Thottbot

does this share the same visual as something else at lvl 70 cause i think it looks awesome and i want one for my level

评论来自 Allakhazam

Wow.... That blade looks SICK! Even better than Thunderfury IMO

评论来自 Allakhazam

For everyone saying this isn't for tanks, you really should first roll a main tank in a high end guild before saying what is good for tanking and what isn't.
Yes, it isn't nearly as fast as Bloodlor's or Quel'Serrar, but if you have ever been a main tank you would know that the main source of rage is the dmg you take... not your own swings. If it's the defence stats on foresaid "tanking swords" that make them "superior" in someway. You are wrong again. Only the bloodlord's +stamina is any good in my book. At this point in the game I really doubt any MT has less that around 400 defence, so he really doesen't need any more of it.
The parry and especially the +swords makes this an ideal sword for main tank, since it help with landing sunders and revenges.
I'm not saying this isn't one of the best swords for a rogue or a fury warrior, because I know it is. But seriously this is also the second most best maintanking sword right after thunderfury (don't even start you greedy rogues... Thunderfury has been proven to be the best sword for tanking).

评论来自 Allakhazam

I'm sorry to disappoint (and get flamed by) all you rogues, but if I were tanking in BWL and this dropped, I'd roll. As a tank the +Swords would help immensely with holding aggro because it essentially reduces the chance said mob would have to dodge sunders. And with +Parry, well simply that's a few less hits that would land on me during a fight, which meansI have a greater chance of survival (a BIG plus in my book). And if one of my guild's rogues got angry because I looted it I'd make a concerted effort to keep running MC so they can get another Brutality Blade/Corehound Tooth or in the least smith them a Heartseeker. :-)

评论来自 Allakhazam

Yeah, I'd definately reroll swords for this baby, especially for the looks ^^

评论来自 Allakhazam

is this a pally sword? cause i seen wow pics where pallies had this

评论来自 Allakhazam

u guys are greedy to the core, its rogue fury warrior period, u dont need dps to taunt and under so I DONT CARE:)

评论来自 Allakhazam

Better pic (some other loot too)
http://www.na.iogaming.com/images/bwl_loot1.jpg

评论来自 Allakhazam

This dropped for my guild on Shattered Hand last night and I (a rogue) won it. It is one of the best offhands IMO especially for a sword rogue with the parry (for riposte) and +4 to swords. With a good sword main hand and sword spec, its a sword rogue's dream =)

评论来自 Allakhazam

Would you HONESTLY use this with Thunderfury? I mean, Blackguard is faster, which means more procs with poison and Sword Spec.(if you got it) I'm just not quite so sure about this one... It might look cool beside Thunderfury IMO...

评论来自 Allakhazam

For a fury warrior or rogue, that uses swords, I'd say this one is way better then Iblis. I'm a fury warrior myself, and uses this one with CTS. And I'm a human aswell, so those +9 swordskills make all that glancing just dissapear :]
Also using this beauty for tanking, and it's doing a very good job.

评论来自 Allakhazam

k one thing its not a good tanking wep, seriously no, Bloodlords defenders 10 times better than this, why oh yea the + def and stam and faster speed to ^^ whats next give it to a rogue:P

评论来自 Allakhazam

Must get one of those for my Paladin....imagine the rogue killing with that, Holy Shield and reckoning

评论来自 Allakhazam

As a mage i would deffinately roll on this!11one

评论来自 Allakhazam

got it last night.

评论来自 Allakhazam

most rogues wont get their hands on this. there are better sword rogue swords... this is for a tank or a fury warrior.

Edit: i would say its more fury warrior then tank. all guilds doign BWL have more or less ALL MT with quel...

Edited, Fri Jan 6 14:38:23 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

this as mainhand and the nightmare blade as the off hand that would look really cool

评论来自 Allakhazam

This is easily best served in the hands of a rogue/fury warrior. BL Defender is better and the lack of DPS isnt a big deal when your tanking, your there to establish aggro, not DPS the boss down. L2P Nubs.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Clearly a warrior weapon, 1: Theres only really 2 tanking weapons between zg and bwl. 2: rogues can get around 10 difference weapons between zg - bwl so let's keep it fair, 3: same with fury warriors, they can also get all kinds of weapons so stop qq and give it to a tank!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Since Speed doesnt matter anymore, this blade is great for Rogues, well, probaly only usefull if you got Riposte, otherwise the stats are pretty useless

评论来自 Allakhazam

No, a warrior can have a much better tanking weapon. Tank weapons are generally mian-handers only, if you haven't noticed.

No, a fury warrior would hate this, as it's too slow, and a tanking warrior can get better than this. A rogue sword all the way, through and through. They'll get much more out of what it gives than any warrior out there.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Picked this up last night, me and another Rogue had the same dkp (All warriors passed) so rolled for it and luckily won.

Let me just say, I used to use Chromatically Tempered Sword main / Brutality Blade offhand (Dual wielding crusader) and have reasonable DPS but a 2.50 speed offhand with the missrate is still questionable on a PvE specced Rogue (even with lots of %hit) Anyway, Picked it up and got 15agility on it and my DPS has gone up considerably, although I miss 9str, 9agi 1% crit, I gain a hell of alot of white damage from offhand, faster hits and more damage and with 15agil I kind of only lose 3atk power and a small amount of crit but I can make that up by upgrading some of my items.. And to all those who say Sword mainhand, dagger offhand sure, the speed is nice but if you have 5/5 Sword spec 2 swords makes for alot more sword spec procs, and alot more DPS! Of course it all comes down to your playstyle..

Quite funny to see some of my gear paired along with one of the best sword spec combo's in the game - but im not complaining =)

Also yes, it does make a good tanking weapon granted, sword skill helps land sunders (Vaelastrasz misses + heal aggro comes to mind here :P) and parry well, speaks for itself less hits landed on a tank isnt a bad thing also the speed is good for generating rage and whatnot. But really, your Warriors can find just as good weapons elsewhere like ours and im VERY glad they passed, and I won the roll with a 23. :D

Swordspec wins!

Edited, Fri Mar 31 15:45:58 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Being a riposte sword rogue, this would be perfect in offhand..... perfect.

评论来自 Allakhazam

For anyone uninformed combat rogues are the best DPS beside or above dagger rogues. this without question is the best sword available to sword combat rogues for thier offhand. +parry is a much needed stat for us as is +swords. There are no real items armor wise catered to sword combat rogues. theres alot of +dagger stuff, and absolutely no +sword stuff for rogues. the speed is perfect for our offhand as is the max damage. Two things people must know. 2.00+ is not a good tanking weapon, the added damage is ok for aggro, but not the main underlying factor in tanking, the added sword is miniscule for tanking but a slight increase is ok. I can verywell see tanks desireing this sword, but unless there aren't sword rogues there they should wait thier turn. Alot of sword rogues are stuck with lackluster offhands due to the poor selection and poor droprates. Endgame combos for most sword rogues up until this point is vishkag with brutality blade. new options are nightmare blade from a outdoor raid dragon, which can be very difficult to take down with faction troubles. the current best endgame setup for sword rogues is either HWL weapons or chromatically tempered/maladath. As far as pve effectiveness, tanks do pristinely fine without this and with quel serrar/otherwise. A tanks goal is to be effective at maintaining aggro and this sword, only due in part to it's speed is not the preffered weapon over quel serrar.
And fury warriors, please send me the best equipped fury warrior you got and I will outdps the ever living crap out of them without trying. I've done it with our vishkag/brutality blade warrior enough.

评论来自 Allakhazam

got this baby tonight and i love it, im using it as a main hand right now with CHT off hand just until i get a chromatically tempered sword then the dagger goes bye bye but i just want to say taht even with the fast attack speed the 2.2 is really awesome imo i still get 800+ sinisters and 1.3k + non crit eviscerates whihc is like 2.2k + eviscerate crits i think thats really awesome with this sword and as a human having 309/309 swords is crazy for landing stuff and a boost in crit chance. all i have to say. hehe its also a server first so i got a buncha newbs saying oooo where u get it lol

评论来自 Allakhazam

i think my heart just stoped .... *dies* X.X

Edited, Tue Sep 13 11:04:34 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

this is not a rogue sword. 60 rogue speaking from experience here, and i would easily rather be wielding a fast off hand, or a reeeealy slow one.
thats what rogues are, burst damage, off hand should be either slower than 2.6 or so. or it should be faster or at about 1.7. this is a tank sword. but in the end dkp prevails and some dumbass rogue with more dkp who wins can have it, but hey, not my problem. consider chromatically tempered sword in main hand and either the offhand from the hakkari set or vis'kag in off hand
-hogwash 60 rogue, bloodscalp

评论来自 Allakhazam

yeah it is

评论来自 Allakhazam

After reading all these posts it's amazing how many uninformed players there are about Tanking Weapons. First of all Quel'Serrar is a cheap toy compared to this weapon. Also many people say DPS doesn't matter for a prot spec tank. Well, after much research and debate it turns out that white damage is most of a warriors agro generation. Point in fact a properly talent specced prot tank has a 1.45 multiplier to his threat. The more dps at a decent speed which 2.2 is very decent for tanking the more agro you will build overall.

Quite simply the more geared out you are the closer you are to stuff like +defense caps, and having items that offer 1% parry and +swords (which helps ToHit significantly when tanking) helps boost your stats even higher.

One thing I'd like to point out people say Spineshatter is a better tank weapon yet turn around and say 2.2 is slow... Spineshatter is 2.6... Anyway this weapon is a great tanking sword, and anyone who really thinks otherwise doesn't know all the facts about tanking and how agro works.

评论来自 Allakhazam

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4536/maladath6uv.jpg

Copy and paste into your browser's address bar...

Edited, Sat Jul 16 03:09:22 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

bababbababa

Edited, Tue Apr 11 06:57:50 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

You guys know what you are talking about for the tanking weapons, I aint a tank so I will not touch that. The reason I respond is because I want to know where you are grinding for a week or two and making 750gp? Exaggeration?

评论来自 Allakhazam

/drool GIEF

评论来自 Allakhazam

It looks so nice on my rogue indeed

评论来自 Allakhazam

Is there any other weapon that looks like Maladath? Because I saw this rogue on my realm : http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7210/doublemala4wy.jpg

I'm not expert but it seems he's using 2 Maladath, but that cannot happen since it's unique :O

Please help me

评论来自 Allakhazam

it's maldath and

评论来自 Allakhazam

http://www.axiomfiles.com/Files/59641/Fangs.jpg

For all you NEs out there... this is what rogues need to look like!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Chromatically Tempered Sword in my main hand and this in my off hand. Not saying its not good for hunters or fury warriors but im thinking a SS/Sword built rogue would get more use out of em. If no rogues in the group that need em feel free.

评论来自 Allakhazam

2.2 Speed + parry rate sounds strangely like a tanking sword to me :P. I'm a rogue mainhanding brutality blade at the moment, but when I get vis'kags or the chomatically tempered sword, I'd happily offhand it (BB) over this thing anyday.

+1 crit, 9 agi and str

vs

+1 parry, +4 swords (yawn) and 5 more dps.

I suppose its whatever you prefer...

评论来自 Allakhazam

OMG that is so amazing lol

评论来自 Allakhazam

I rly don't care what u rogues say, as I fury warrior I would LOVE to wield this, but I would fight to give it to teh MT too... u rogues should try get BB instead +crit is what u rly need, after all ur not supose to be hit at, r u?
but when it at the bottom line its who rolls highest who gets it/ has the DKP so gl

and Lightmaster, Nightmare Blade looks the same, rly cool imo =D

评论来自 Allakhazam

hhmm dont know wether to get this or thunderfury... kinda leaning towards this

评论来自 Allakhazam

Got it last night and I am furry warrior with BB main hand soon to be Thunderfurry.

This is probly one of the best one-hand weapons for any duel wielding class in the game exculeding hunters. The +sword is nice to help with the miss rates and the parry is always a nice bounses.

All i can say is WOW at my overall DPS increase make me love being furry again. My guild we only let the warriors and the rogue bid nobody else.

评论来自 Allakhazam

im a tank and find it insane to get Quel Serar for 2000g as this is the price on my server. I have farmed ZG with my guild for over 2 1/2 months now... or maybe more than that. Still havent seen Bloodlords defender drop. at least 20 full runs. Im 2nd in tanking order. My advise to tanks: Get it if u dont have either Quel Serar or Bloodlords defender. and use it till u get either QS or BD. Its just my opinion, and i am really not selfish even if i sound so: priority to the tanks / balance dps between classes, if u want to progress in pve.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Dropped in BWL for us last night. Took us a couple of tries to get the suppression rooms down and then two attempts at the Broodlord - our first time, too. Our MT got the weapon. Looks really nice ^^

评论来自 Allakhazam

Hehe, finally got this after a major dkp battle with a rogue. And guess what - he was intelligent & decent enough to say "i'm not sad, it went to a tank". I also got the Zulian Tigerhide Cloak the same week. My misses & glancing blows on Nefarians goons went from a lot to near nonexistant.

评论来自 Allakhazam

You guys might flame me but i think thats a awesome Combat rogue sword.+1% parry is great for riposte and +4 for more dmg.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This blade is AMAZING for a rogue's offhand. This however is wasted in a rogue's main hand.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I want lol.. ;)

评论来自 Allakhazam

This will be a nice offhand when I get Thunderfury.

Thunderfury + Fury Spec + Maelstrom Card = Mega Proc uberage...

And having this bad boy offhand is just pure intimidation

评论来自 Allakhazam

so i can use this for my rogue right? (after leveling about 38 more lvls)
is it pretty fast for rogues to kill ppl?

评论来自 Allakhazam

First, this sword looks freakin amazing (along with nightmare blade).

As far as who should get it, its clear that it is a rogue/DPS warrior sword. This isnt a tanking sword at all, sword skill doesnt help you hold agro, 1 parry isnt much. I'd rather use a quicker 1H with more tanking stats for tanking (bloodlord's defender, TF, even quel'serrar, or a widow's remorse) more then this.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Imagine what it would look like to dual weild 2 of these.. that would be SICK.

great looking blade!

评论来自 Allakhazam

If you are in a raid and this drops, of course you will let your tank get it over any other class. For the players not familiar with BWL and are just looking at the drops in there, when your main tank loses agro, or dies. The attempt is over, the raid dies within seconds, and you must try again. So before complaining, it is far more important for your tanking warriors to get an upgrade than whatever minor dps upgrade you will get. Think about it

评论来自 Allakhazam

id rather have brutality blade + cromaticly tempered combo

评论来自 Allakhazam

Mage item
http://personal.inet.fi/taide/0000f/mageitem.jpg

评论来自 Allakhazam

I think this thing is ideal for rogues. Fury warriors, maybe.. but the parry and +swords seems perfect for riposting and the combat talents. Its fast, but not fast enough for tanking, and not fast enough to make a really good fury wep. All the warriors who want this, I dont see why.. you can get Quel or Bloodlords defender LOADS easier than this. To take it from a poor rogue such as myself... unthinkable! : p

评论来自 Allakhazam

I also agree this is a DECENT tanking sword. Not the best but will do the job. But this is a rogues priority in the off hand for sure. If the rogues pass it then the tanks and the fury warriors can fight over it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Not with same sword cuz it's a unique weapon. =)

评论来自 Allakhazam

I'm a rogue, I have BB and Maladath. Maladath is way better for PvE plain and simple as i have done many tests in BWL/MC.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I'm in love... <3
xD

评论来自 Allakhazam

Coolest looking sword in the game IMO.

Fashion > all

Edited, Mon Jun 5 16:14:07 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

omg someone had thier thumb on the camera!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Rogues offhand :) would be pretty amazing ^_^
together with Chromatically Tempered Sword in main, and i will be unstoppable ^_^

评论来自 Allakhazam

Is it possible to Duel Wield this amazing sword?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Hogwash speaks truth, there is a 60 rogue on my server with this sword and all I can say is, LOOT &*!@#.

This sword will benefit your guild much more in the hands of a warrior, also speaking from experience of both classes at 60.

评论来自 Allakhazam

LOL. Im reading all these posts about how "it's a rogue weapon", and "no way, warrior weapon". but I'm a pally and if this dropped I would roll on it in a blink of an eye. I just play this game to have fun, and fun in this game is kickin tail and lookin awesome. Thats what this weapon is. Pallies don't rule but i play one anyway and there awesome.... :P

评论来自 Allakhazam

Isnt it great for Rouge offhand with dagger?

I think you can deal a lot of dmg with that weapon{Backstab}(good spead and nice stats with good average dmg).

评论来自 Allakhazam

ide love to tank with this... right now i use deathbringer, and i hold aggro better than warriors in full might, i tank through dmg and im our guilds main tank :) this sword would be titties for me, i like the +to swords and the parry and the dps on it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

wouldn't mind 1 or 2 of them for a fury warrior.. heroic strike and that would be quite nice

评论来自 Allakhazam

This is the best tanking sword in the game, far superior to Bloodlord's Defender, Quel'Serrar and anything else you can think of. You want to know why? I'll tell you why.

1) High DPS. It has some of the highest DPS in the game. Believe it or not DPS is a major portion of a tank's aggro. A tank with defiance needs to merely do ~256 damage to do equal threat of a sunder armor

2) Parry. Duh.

3) +4 to Swords. Most highly underestimated part of this sword.

This is the best stat for a tank to have in the game. The only time tanking really matters is versus bosses, who are level 63 mobs.

When you are tanking a level 63 mob, you miss and they parry/dodge... A LOT. Increasing your level to practically 61 will decrease this parry/miss hcance by a TON, which is very benefitial in tanking.

评论来自 Allakhazam

as a rogue i wouldnt roll on it. Better for tanks and such id rather have alot of other things.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Got this baby yesterday for my rogue. main chromatically tempered sword, off maladath. well...killer. the +4 swords is definatly great. missing the target? not very often now :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

The sword dont got any class requirement. And btw, none of you will roll for it; In a guild raid u spend dkp's and is your officers who decide if you can roll or not. And if yo go with a pickup raid, you will never put a step on BWL. lol. Stop posting for stupidicies.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I am a sword rogue an i'll bet on this if it would drop. Good offhand speed, parry for riposte and +swords give a bigger chance to hit to crit etc.
Our tanks, exploding because of alle the epixXx from MC and Zul don't need this sword for tanking.

评论来自 Allakhazam

评论来自 MrGaffer

This weapon is an excellent off-hand for sword rogues and fury warriors. Compared to various alternatives, there are many better weapons out there for tank mainhand weapons.

评论来自 MrGaffer

According to the AtlasLoot addon this item's droprate is 10.7%

This sword is a fantastic offhand weapon for rogues and fury warriors.

评论来自 Erzschurke

If you are a Human Sword Rogue. This Sword is crap for you, because you dont profit from the stats. Hard Cap for Weapon expertise is 308. With this you have 314. Take 哈卡莱战刃 instead. It is much better for you.

评论来自 Thope

So, deciding if i should get this and thought i would look up some info. while going through these comments i noticed that rarely is anyone who is commenting on its tanking capabilities is mentioning whether you are fury/prot, dual wielding, main tank, off tank, main hand, off hand, etc.. itemization can determine whether an item is bis or not for a particular character(assuming there are other close items to choose from). that being said i believe after 308 weapon skill benefits start to drop off significantly. Melee is your highest dmg so dps/glancing%/hit % needed/ are all important. if this is in your offhand while dualwield tanking the speed does not matter and parry is more effective without a shield than with. having another sword thats good/synchronizes should be considered. in my humble opinion, warblade/thunderfurry/blackguard/etc in mh with this in oh would make for a good set. a lot of bosses though in bwl for example will probably require a shield which is what most high geared tanks are concerning themselves with. some main tanks might not want as much as an off tank for this reason. your raids strength should be factored into this as some tanks can dw on bwl bosses(broodlord dw cringe though gl). oh and what traits youre stacking matter as well 10%parry or 5%dodge 5%parry the 10 is better(not just because parrying an attack decreases your current swing time) because you are more likely to avoid the attack than with two 5%. you dont add them together to make 10%dodge/parry. cant just kill a mob with a 1%drop chance and expect it to drop after 100 kills for ex. (blackguard/mala/t2gloves/t1legs/counterstone/talents alone can amount to 10% on top of your default+defense bonus. this would also increase your dmg(faster swings) 304weapon skill decreases the amount of hit needed on a boss by 1% 305 by 3% so the one more from whatever source would increase the benefit substantially.

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