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评论来自
Reach
This is crafted through the Thorium Brotherhood Reputation, If you don't have access to ZG, or Onyxia (for Quel'Serrar) this is a fantastic tanking weapon. The materials are a little high though -_-
评论来自
7543
The price on cores is going down daily it seems, but this sword is still waay overpriced.
I suppose if you run a farmer sweatshop or something and have limitless gold, go for it. It is a great tanking weapon... that you'll be using for 2 months, at most.
评论来自
9590
I agree with the above comment, it is so far the best BoE tanking weapon in the game but probably not worth getting if your guild is doing endgame.
评论来自
Thottbot
Actually, this weapon is great for a sword+combat rogue - like myself.
Successful parry yields the ability to disarm+deal 150 percent weapon damage (with my current skullforge reaver this equals 700 damage per disarm) for only 10 energy cost. Upping my parry with 2 of these swords will be excellent, and since I'm a swordsmith, that's exactly what I'm going to do.
Also, aside of slicenDice giving me 30 percent bonus attack speed, Blade flurry adds 20 percent more on top of that, and full carrythrough damage to an adjacent enemy - damage skills used included. This means I'll be attacking 50 percent faster, with a higher riposte(disarm+damage) chance, some added hitpoints on top of an already good DPS rate, with full carrythrough splash damage. I fail to see how it gets much better than that. Unless I could get onyxia's bloodletter or a brutality blade - but my rolls are always crap when I need something. So this is a nice alternative for me ;)
-Grayform.
评论来自
Thottbot
I put alotta work into becomming a level 300 Master Swordsmith.
Its a shame ive been kicking myself ever since considering there arnt many swords i can make, I have all of the plans, cept for this new one, and the weapons i can make, just arnt worth making because well the mats cost alone and then finally the final price on the weapon results in people just laughing at you. Example people laugh when i ask for 400g for a Heartseeker. Yes they do sell but theres alotta messing around involved. However if i made a Dark Iron Reaver. Mats cost 2000g minimum, well im only going to be laughed at because the stats on the sword arnt anything special. Does'nt blizzard take into consideration what the cost of mats are and etc? Do they think people actually sell Dark Iron Ore for 5s each? Blah, pack of smacktards!
评论来自
Thottbot
I totally agree with you. The whole blacksmith profession just taking money out from my pocket. There is nothing (!) i can make what can be sell for the price equally the ingredients costs. 20 Arcanite Bars for an Arcanite Reaper? 16 Dark Iron Bars for a Dark Iron Plate? Everyone will found better items for free, it's just matter of time... Thanks Blizzard for this usefull tradeskill!
评论来自
Thottbot
Me and my little blackguard! Lovin it! :D
http://represent.dk/pc/screenshots/pondera_blackguard.jpg
/Pondera, <Praemium Callidus> , Burning Legion, EU
评论来自
Thottbot
Well, I'm looking for something to complement my new Brutality Blade, and the speed of this, not to mention the decent DPS (compared to what I'm using at the moment anyhow!) makes me rather tempted by it.
Obviously it means me spending DKP on the cores etc, and hard cash on the Arcanite, but I was wondering if there was anything better out there, offhand-wise, for a rogue? Most end-game stuff seems to be slow - at least, that's attainable for me - would I be be better off simply getting hold of Dal'Rends Tribal Guardian?
Cheers!
评论来自
Thottbot
High damage, good speed, a tad of stamina. And best of all +parry. All in all one of the best offhand swords for a combat rogue. Parry = Riposte = Disarm.
Though it`s damn expensive...
评论来自
Thottbot
I know it's a bit expensive due the mats.
Would you say that it's a good off-hand weapon for a Fury Warrior ? Speed is nice, parry is a nice bonus. Or would you recommend another off-hand sword ?
评论来自
Thottbot
It's a nice tanking weapon, but imo, it's not worth the money = / The arcanite bars are around 500g alone on some servers =S
评论来自
Thottbot
well tbh totally honest this is a tanking weapon for MTs heanc the guild only mats. Its fast (sic for sundering), its got 1% parry (equal to 12.5 def and its constant, not a proc like QS)
....this weapon wins hands down over QS everytime.
How can you even think this is a useful weapon for rogues?, rogues need stats and crit, those that think so are tards, and if you ask me, any guild that would waste the cores and craft this for rogue are even bigger tards.
I have both QS and Blackguard and on BWL naxx bosses this is my weapon of choice for holding aggro. Its the best purple tanking weapon in the game.
Shame it looks like a tooth pick, nice graphics but Blizz could have made it look a bit more menacing!
评论来自
Thottbot
I love the stupid little flaming comments on all the items. Anyway you have to understand when this game was released there was not a BWL, ZG, and the Quel book was rare as rare. You had MC and that was it. So for the guilds at the time you farmed the trash in MC for these mats and made these weapons for your tanks. The dps is awesome too. Anyway at the time of the release and for many months after there was no Bloodlord's Defender from ZG and it wasnt easier to just get into a raiding guild that did BWL.
评论来自
Thottbot
With the prices of Lava Cores and Fiery cores dropping in price, it is will in grasps to make this sword for under 500g if you were to buy off the AH. The sword is works very well for tanking, Nearly on par with QS. It does a great job of building rage for sunders and Heroic Strike. Producing Heroic Strikes every 1.8 seconds is a exellent way to hold aggro. I could be wrong...and maybe those are old posts, but isnt 1% parry chance and 1% dodge change 25 Defense now? Anyways, it is worth crafting and works well even for a fury build offhander!
评论来自
Allakhazam
dont think anyone has the rep to make it. i have all the mats but theres no exalted swordsmith on my server :S
just got brutality blade anyway so ill juat tank with that till something better drops along for free unless black guard looks crazy! which it should!
评论来自
Allakhazam
This does not cross over your back, it does not longer then the average blade (it's actually shorter), and it does not look cool. This item looks identical to the Worn Shortsword but with black and red colors, I saw a warrior with it on Khadgar server, I was so dissapointed...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone know where to get these plans?
评论来自
Allakhazam
The only weaponsmtih tree that doesn't get any business is the swordsmith, the hammersmith can make the hammer of the titans, which MS warriors and SoC pallys can use to great effect, the Axesmtihs get the arcanite reaper, with the same usues, and swordsmiths get the arcanite champion, which is only useful for warriors and survival hunters, and even most of them won't take it. then we get to make this and Dark Iron Reaver, neither of which is somethng that anyone will pay for. Blizz needs to make some more tweaking to the attack power calcs in order to make swordsmithing more viable.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have a 60 Combat Rogue, and am workin on my Warrior right now. all I can say is, "Damn" when I see these stats. Badass MT Sword or Combat Rogue in PvP. I love it. If I could afford it I'd get one made.
Oh, and it looks like a Black Pole with red highlights when the light hits it, if I recall correctly. Graphics are some of the worst in the game n this lil bad boy right here, but Graphics < Stats
Edited, Aug 21st 2006 at 5:26am EDT by Wenduki
评论来自
Allakhazam
Me and my little Blackguard, lovin it! :D
http://represent.dk/pc/screenshots/pondera_blackguard.jpg
Pondera, <Praemium Callidus>, Burning Legion, EU
Edited, Wed Jul 27 19:32:32 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is this weapon black and longer than your avarage sword or blade?
评论来自
Allakhazam
dam some one make me this or get it for me so i can sell lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
Quell'Serrar Class: Warrior, Paladin."
How the hell? ROGUE?
Ill tell you why because a combat specced rogue with riposte ability could realy use the extra chance to parry. Riposte is an attack that deals 150% normal damage and disarms your attacker, only requires very little energy and has a low cooldown and you MUST parry an attack before you can use it and that extra 1% chance to parry is realy usefull for a combat specced rogue. Now i agree that this would be equaly good for a warrior and i guess paladin as well but you any combat rogue using riposte has a right to this as well
评论来自
Allakhazam
Screen?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I try really hard to like the Blizzard Dev team, I really do. But why do they keep insulting us crafters - particularly the swordsmiths. Axesmiths have the Arcanite Reaper, Hammersmiths have the Hand of Ragnaros, we get the Arcanite Champ (LOL) and Blackguard?....
Blacksmithing: 12x Lava Core, 12x Fiery Core, 10x Arcanite Bar, 6x Dark Iron Bar, 12x Guardian Stone
For something that requires over 2,000+ gold in mats or close to 2 weeks of farming Molten Core (you're lucky if you get 8 cores in 4 hours) It doesn’t even have Fire resistance? WTF? - I won’t even complain that it doesn’t have a proc... which it should too.
This thing for the mats - and even the fricking model/artwork alone, should have 10 fire resistances MININUM... I have a fricking POS Green Hammer from UBRS that has 10 Fire resistances on it! for 24 cores the Blackguard should be 15 if not 20 fire resistance...
Not only are you locked into a Profession Specialization, but then they toy and taunt with you - and insult you with crap like this and the Dark Iron Reaver... Not only that, it takes 300 + cores to get Exaulted (are you kidding me) ... and this is the reward.
If I wanted a trophy - Id go stomp some gnomes, how about rewarding people who play the game and not exploit it.
Get It Right Blizz - Protest Swordsmiths UNITE.
评论来自
Allakhazam
ye they have a point they do suk i brought 1 and literly sold it staight away lol.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Crap sword for all the trouble. No way I would pay or work for one of those.
评论来自
Allakhazam
can i go duel wit these & do they cross on ur back like skullforge reavers ?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ridiculous mats, the value of them is well over 2000. You will see more people with Grand Marshall weapons than you will with the new Thorium recipes.
评论来自
Allakhazam
great for combat rogues. more parry more riposte more pissed off melee without immune chain.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone have a pic of this sword, or a link to it ?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Me gusta mucho... now only getting exhaulted..
评论来自
Allakhazam
Frankly from a combat rogues perspective.... this weapon is not worth all of the trouble to get.... BB in offhand > blackgaurd.... and for people saying "i dont have a Quel Serrar this is all i can get" im pretty sure you can spend 1000-1500 g on a Quel Serrar Book rather than spend 500g+ for a blackgaurd.... the mats are just Crazy the sword isnt THAT good and... its just a waste of money.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Guys... this is the single best sword spec Rogue offhand in the game. I'm sure if you could dual wield Thunderfury there would be better...
EDIT:I just realized... If Maladath, Runed Blade of the Black Flight out damages this over the insane procs you'll get from Blackguard's speed, it could be better. Not to mention it looks like something to go with Thunderfury...
Edited, Mon Jan 23 21:11:35 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Was just wondering, have they changed the looks of this recently?
Post pic if so plxxx
评论来自
Allakhazam
Omfg... this can't be right?
7000GOLD ? Please explain this :S
评论来自
Allakhazam
i'm a 59 warrior over on darkiron... and i think this might be the sword i need for tanking. Hell, i'm still using Thrash blade.
评论来自
Allakhazam
very nice tanking weapon .. shame it doesn't have a higher dps (around 54ish) and fire res too seeing as you need all the cores and stuff to make it. suppose it's ok for guilds that have alot of people in to save up to make with all the mats they get doing MC. hope it looks as good as some of the new weapons appearing from BWL tho
评论来自
effyouzion
Most would agree that this item is slightly worse than Quel'serrar. It's also usually more expensive to craft than Foror's Compendium is to buy. Not a great combination.
However, fury/prot warriors need an offhand weapon, but Quel'serrar can only be equipped in the main hand. That means Blackguard is the best offhand you can find for a fury tank until you have two raid weapons (one for your main hand, and then another for your offhand).
Given that fury tanks still need to wear a shield much of the time, the raid weapons tend to go to the full-time DPS. It could take a long time before fury tanks are able to acquire two raid weapons. Blackguard is a solid investment for a tank in classic.
评论来自
GearHead1255
Definitely would be worth getting ahold of this. I can see this sword easily selling for 4500-5000g on the Mankrik PVE cluster. Can't wait until i regularly have these on the auction house soon
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