These are the Dungeon Set 1 (Tier 0) gauntlets designed for Warriors.
really low drop rate, i killed ramstein about ~25 times and never see gauntlets :(
I have done 44 Stratholme Baron runs...they have dropped once, and a paladin named Daemoria rolled on them. What a *!@#$! I hate these gaunts.
Some people think warriors deserve first pick of plate,
weapons, etc over paladins because they're the main tank.
WTF? Of course us warriors should have the pick of shields, we're the tanks ffs. As for weapons, I do think we should have priority on 1h weapons (unless they have an int buff) because again, we're the tanks.
Also you Paladin's should NOT be rolling on Valor if there is a Warrior present (unless the Warrior has the piece already). I don't care if you're a damn retribution spec Paladin mate, not an issue. I lost the breastplate to a Paladin....I'm still raging about it.
Wanna try and tank? Go to your login screen and click "Create New Character"...
Just wanted to say I play a VERY HAPPY paladin who NEVER has to go back to Blackrock Depths for my Lightforge Gauntlets and I agree with all of you, I would NEVER roll on these gloves if a warrior in the raid needed them, not in a million years.
People have no business rolling on sets that are not of their class, and while I realize these blue sets are not "Class: Warrior", etc... they damn well should be. I see it worst with casters. Priests wearing Dreadmist robes and Mages wearing Devout shoulders... it drives me up the wall.
I did 26 runs to Baron for Lightforge Legplates and in all those runs, Ramstein NEVER dropped these hands, very pathetic. I refuse to roll on Valor when warriors are in need, it's very cruel. I'd hate it if Lightforge Chest dropped off Drak and the MT said, oh, that's a pretty yellow thing with a LOT of Intellect for my weapon training skill :()
Anyway, good luck to all of you. Like it or not dudes, you get your gloves easier than Paladins, who have to recruit an ENTIRE group for two miserable hours to go to an instance where NOTHING drops but hands, and rarely at best.
While these are very nice gloves and are likely an upgrade for any Paladin who doesn't have Lightforge, no Paladin should ever roll on these gloves unless the Warrior(s) in the group already has them.
Same goes for Lightforge and Warriors. No Warrior should ever role on Lightforge unless the Paladin(s) in the group already has the piece.
Lightforge = Paladin set.
Valor = Warrior ser.
I'm a 60 Paladin, by the way.
I appreciate all the Paladins who realize that they have a set specific for them. If you think valor is for you then you really dont know how to work together with other classes in a raid and I hope you get blacklisted for rolling on another class's gear. Warriors would never wear lightforge, give up your dream of being a full fledged warrior.
Belt of Valor �LBRS - Highlord Omokk - Spirestone Ogre Magus -LBRS
At the first point you encounter the ogres (after the orcs) not so far from the beginning of the instance.
Bracers of Valor �UBRS - Smolderthorn Axe Thrower -Blackhand Iron Guard - Firebrand Legionnaire - Bloodaxe Warmonger - Scarshield Legionnaire
Upper BlackRockSpire, After the Arena.. Before the General
Spaulders of Valor � UBRS - Warchief Rend Blackhand
Breastplate of Valor - UBRS - General Drakkisath
Gauntlets of Valor - Stratholme - Ramstein the Gorger
Legplates of Valor - Stratholme - Baron Rivendare
Valor Helm: - Scholomance - Darkmaster Gandling
He spawns in the Headmasters Study area(Past the viewing room, other gate instead of one leading to the lich) after clearing out all of the 6 named mini-bosses in there
For everyoen that can't find him, after you go into the 6 rooms full of bosses, downstairs in the middle of the rooms, he spawn right there.
Boots of Valor -Scholomance - Kirtonos the Herald
If u have completed the Kirthonos quest you'll have to get blood at basement (which sucks), but if u havent then its pretty simple, use your blood to summon Kirthonos, kill him and drop quest, go out to Eva (quest giver) and retake the quest, youll have a brand new blood on your inv, reset intance and repeat until u get your valor boots or whatever drops youre looking from him. You wont get credit from the kill if its done in raid, so make sure u drop quest BEFORE talking to Eva if u killed him 5man.
I am playing a Retribution Pally and I can *understand* other Pally'y WANTING to roll for Valor. At least as to some of the set items the Valor versions are better for a Retri Pally than the Lightforge ones (Bracers, most noticably...).
Still if the Warrior needs the item the Pally is not allowed to roll despite the Pally wanting it.
THERE ARE CERTAIN SET ITEMS WHICH ARE RESERVED FOR A SPECIFIC CLASS AND VALOR IS WARRIOR, ONLY IF THE WARRIOR ALREADY GOT IT (happened for me three times, hehehe :-) Nearly would have got a fourth one, but one of the three warri's still needed it so I couldn't roll for it :( )) ) THE PALLY IS ALLOWED TO ROLL. So even if the Pally wants - he shouldn't. And I say that playing myselves a t retribution specced Pally.
Personally I hope the new Item set announced for 1.9 will be a bit "better" for retribution Pally's.
ur absolutely right man paladins r @#$%in useless i think blizzard made them just to have disputes and arguements about them get the tention goin ya know lol but its not even fun to fight a paladin they just shield and heal its basically a warrior vs 3 paladins because everytime u rape his ass down to 0 health he shields and heals back to full (repeat process) until ur health is chizzled away and u die well i gotta saay somethin *!@# THAT how ridiculous play a class that has a part in a raid and that people enjoy playing with ur all just troublemaking asscracks thanx, go die now
Pallies are useless, they are like a lvl 10 preist, with lvl 60 gear, and a sword. I sure hope Blizard gives em a push in the right direction next patch. I personaly hate Fighting them (me being a warior) because they heal them selves so damn much. Id like to see the hearthstone being not available to use while shilded, and let them heal themselves only once, I cant compete with a guy that full heals twice and partial heals twice.
..if your complaining about how 10 yr olds play the pallies...does typing in caps lock make you sound bigger than a 10 yr old, or..what?
i'm a 60 paladin on twilights hammer and i'll happily admit that, along with rogues, paladins have the most annoying, noobish and plain whiney players, many have no idea how to put their class to good use (but lets face it, neither does blizzard)
a paladin who rolls on valor, when theres a warrior in the group who wants them, is a gigantic #$%^&*! and clearly doesn't understand that any spec of paladin is much better off wearing Lightforge, since a large INT bonus isn't just a larger mana pool for healing and cleansing, it improves the damage of your seals and your ability to draw agro from the holy damage they generate
That said, paladins can use valor and its a useful stepping stone to lightforge if they are ret/prot specced, still using some crappy green gloves which they picked up in ZF or Sunken and the warriors in the group don't need them and are happy enough to let them roll
I have seen cases of Warriors rolling vs paladins on plate items with an INT bonus, and no matter how bad a pally rolling vs a warrior on valor item is (cause atleast paladins can make use of ALL the stat bonuses), its nothing compared to the lameness of that.
I wouldn't mind as much if the int bonus was used to help some of them learn how to hold agro properly
Theese do indeed drop of Ramstein still.
I had died with him at about 2% hp (damned druid not bothering to drink whilst ramstein was walking over) and they dropped. I won the roll but, since I was dead, didn't receive my loot.
Druid waits like 10 seconds to start a res, the like 30 trash mobs that come after Ramstein came and wiped the rest of the group. The group then disbanded and I was left to attmpt a suicide run through respawns to get my gloves, which I couldn't get to. Moral of the story, slap druids.
why do pallys roll on valor its clearly ment for warrior plus warriors are the only ones that can use heroisom so ovbiously its for a warrior.
Degenerate on Akama server, Im willing to buy these for under 200g, PST me anytime
how much are they worth?
If you hate paladins as much as I do...horde is for you. This is warrior armour nuff said.
gloves on laughing skull alliance are around 90g
its kinda funny, i'm a rogue randomly browsing and it seems the pally/warrior feud for set pieces is very similar to the rogue/druid feud.
i wish people would just stick to what blizzard intended on. Too bad blizzard cant make it so that ONLY the specified class can roll NEED, like the NEED button would only work for warriors when valor drops, and etc.
prevent ninja's on the BOE items too :) .... to an extent that is
Valor ain't worth getting as paladin, unless it is an improvement and the warrior ain't needing it. Warriors do the tanking and the tanking means the grp will stay alive or at least take less damage.
I have both a level 60 warrior and paladin, and valor on my paladin makes no sense. We deal our damage with judgements and seals and pretty much gotta keep us self alive, not to mention the countless cleansing and healing. That is the best way.
Lightforge also become heck of a better when you upgrade it to Soulforge.
This armor set is for warriors thus paladins should NEVER win a roll agianst a warrior for this. I play Horde so i dont have to deal with paladins, its great. My warrior is 52 and one day i saw these in AH for 100g buyout. Got a loan for 23 gold and bought them. This will Save me 8 levels and several runs time for them and i say its worth it. I also have the belt and the bracers. Just to level up to use them. Bracers were free from an endgame guild Belt was 75g. I say dont waste your time farming them unless you have an endgame guild that can help you a lot. Otherwise your better off farming cash and getting them yourself, 25 runs + for these in an instance where you have to wait for others to group and you could wipe, farm SFK average 5g per run vendoring everything but the twink weapons, 20 runs and you should be able to afford it, 30 minutes a run in SFK 2+ hour for the instance for these and the twink weapons will get you some serious bonus cash.
This is a post I threw up on the Spaulder of Valor thread about a week ago and I think it should be posted on all 8 set piece threads but I'm too lazy to do it. However, this thread seemed to be the longest of any of them so I had to C&P; it here:
The bottom line on whether paladins should be able to roll on Valor set items is easy to determine and it's something I have not seen mentioned on any of the threads for the 8 Valor pieces (although I must admit I have not read every post on all 8 threads). The bottom line is this: The Valor set upgrades into the Heroism set through a series of quests obtained in Orgrimmar if you're Horde and either Ironforge or Stormwind if you're alliance. Paladins CAN NOT receive these quests. If a Paladin goes to get his or her upgrade quest they reveive the quest for the Lightforge set (and I apologize for not knowing what that upgrades to but I'm on Horde side 60 warrior). THAT is the bottom line. Yes, a paladin can equip any of the pieces of the valor set, but they can not get the full usefulness out of them that a warrior can. Therefore, if you are in a group and a piece of Valor armor drops it should go to a warrior first and if none of the warriors present needs it then and ONLY then should a paladin be allowed to roll on it. End of story, thank you for playing.
But personally, I'd much rather have a warrior tanking than a paladin, simply for the fact of all the aggro skills. I do admit though that paladins are good tanks when they know what they're doing.
Anyways, onto the gauntlets...
I ran so many strat runs for these things, I finally broke down and bought the gauntlets for 90g. Upgraded them to heroism soon after, and I love em. :)
I have 2 lvl 60 a paladin and a warrior . just want to say that is $%^&ed up to need valor when u can get lf much easier whit higher droprate. i would be get pissed whit my warrior if a paladin needed on my valor stuff!
Since both of these are bind on equip unlike the rest of the set, can u not wear it before u turn it in for quest? Or can you still exchange for heroism even after both items are soulbound?
You can equip any Valor item and still turn it in for the upgrade. (Otherwise the BoP Valor items couldn't ever be upgraded, now could they?)
Got these from AH for 30 gold and I even tried to psst the guy selling them to talk him down cheaper i always see them for 70-85 B.O..I paid it but tried to get for cheaper.Got the chest on my second UBRS run still have not got the spaulders boots took 3 or 4 runs just kept quiting the blood quest after i beat him "gauranteed blood".The other peices came easy. Good Luck and screw pally's.
I've got all but the gauntlets and helm. For some reason the legs (the first piece I've obtained) drops for me more than these do. The breastplate was also pretty rare and I had done UBRS about 40 times before I got it (saw it three times, lost all times). Thankfully I got that done before the 1.10 patch so UBRS will only be 10man. Still need to raid Scholo for the helm and for the Deathbone loot.
Baron in Strat dropped these for me.
Got these to drop last night on my third Strat run. They drop of RAMSTEIN not baron.
Got these on my second run in strat, and it dropped by Ramstein the Gorger, and the first run i got the legs by Baron ^^
saw them in the AH tonight for 55g buyout and i jumped all over that it usually sells for 80+ 3/8 pieces for my 53 NE warrior
since it says that ramstein drops em, you couldnt have gotten em from the baron.
I have had all my valor for a while now.
The legs i had the most trouble with, i was luck enough to nab the chest when it dropped in UBRS on my second run, as i was the only warrior. gloves are VERY VERY hard to get unless you buy, although they're drop rate has stayed the same after becoming BoE.
Edited, Wed May 24 20:38:58 2006
drops of ramstein thats where i got em
only piece of valor that dropped for me and i ran alto of runs to places where valor drops >.<
Got these of Ramstien. Pally, Warrior already had them ¬¬
Still drop from Ramstein, they're just BoE now.
110 BD Strat runs. These have dropped four times. Went to a 54 warrior once; I'm yet to get mine.
FINALLY dropped for me last night..unfortunetly shortly after the leggings dropped too, and its only 1 set per run :*(
Now i feel stupid.
Killed Ramstein 4times now ^^
This is on Aggramar EU normally for 40g but I bought it for 27g
baron doesnt drop the gauntlets. the abomination that comes out of the building (after killing all the other ones) drops them. these dropped on my first run but the valor legs have yet to drop.. (i did over 14+ runs on sat and sunday and they nevr dropped).
on my 2nd run to Strat i was hoping they would drop after waiting for ages to see if they would appear on AH, they appeared on AH this morning i scrambled to get the gold for em in 15 mins there were gone of AH.
They didnt drop needless to say not that i expected them to.
[SoM Phase 1]
耐久: 45 / 45
(2) 组合 :
(4) 组合 :
(6) 组合 :
有一定几率在近战攻击时为你回复88 to 132点生命值。
(8) 组合 :
Battlegear of Valor
Dungeon Sets 1 and 2 Quests - WoW Classic
Stratholme Undead Dungeon Strategy in WoW Classic
The Best and Worst BoE Drops in Classic WoW
Tier 0 Set Overview
WoW Classic Warrior Armor/Tier Sets - Appearances, Set Bonuses, Sources
[Screenshots containing UI elements are generally declined on sight, the same goes for screenshots from the modelviewer or character selection screen.]
[Please review our