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How to Play a Survival Hunter in Shadowlands Pre-patch
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Shadowlands is almost upon us, bringing with it Patch 9.0 and a large chunk of Class changes and updates. In this guide, we will take a look at the most significant changes for Survival Hunter, detailing how you can expect to play the spec during the Shadowlands pre-patch.
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How to Play Survival Hunter in Shadowlands Pre-Patch
The Survival Hunter is a brutal melee combatant, abandoning ranged weapons for closer combat ones, preparing to face enemies eye-to-eye. Survival revolves around the core rotation of
,
,
and
. The core gameplay is to generate
Focus
with
to make sure you maintain
and spend excess on
, which can get a bit more complex when using some of the talent combinations, but generally doesn't add extra buttons to your rotation.
Survival has unique Mastery in that not only does it increase your damage, but also increases your survival with constant passive healing. However, it is important to remember that while Survival also heavily depends on pets like Beast Mastery, it is still unable to tame exotics pets. Furthermore you can use your
to immune dangerous abilities, or
to make enemies lose interest in you.
Furthermore like other hunters you will be able to put down
to slow down enemies in an area, dispel enraged with
, or use your pet via
to creatively pull some mobs.
How Different Does Survival Hunter Feel in the Shadowlands Pre-Patch?
Overall the spec plays very similarly to BFA. Corruption is gone, which drops our haste, but until Shadowlands releases we still have access to our Azerite and Essences.
The main change that you will see is the addition of
to your action bar and to the rotation which is welcomed.
For more information, check out the
Beginner's Guide
or
Rotation Guide
.
New Abilities for Survival Hunter in Shadowlands Pre-Patch
Overall we can split abilities into 3 categories : "Rotational", "Gimmicky", "Flavor".
Rotational
:
- an actually welcome addition to our toolkit (albeit completely separate from our toolkit). Part of the issue is that for Survival this ability has no connection to your toolkit. If it did less damage there would be situations when you wouldn't even use it instead of your main spender.
Gimmicky
:
- fairly high focus cost ability for very limited usability. Not worth keybinding outside of PvP.
- decent pvp utility, that lets you track rogues/druids if they manage to get a re-stealth, on gcd.
- might be somewhat useful in regards to being able to aggro a pack of mobs, run away with them, and
as a slightly more convenient death-skip, but once again extremely niche.
- moved our utility away from a pet and made always available which is a nice change.
Flavor
:
- a lovely ability, full of hunter class flavor which means that we are unable to use it without swapping our weapons, as it does require a ranged weapon.
- another lovely ability unusable without weapon swap, simply doing damage with a cast time.
How Do the GCD Changes Affect Spec Class in Shadowlands Pre-Patch
is now off GCD, but overall it has almost no impact.
How Do AoE Target Caps Affect Survival Hunter in Shadowlands Pre-Patch
Currently, the only abilities that changed are
and
(5 targets each) - overall they're not that significant damage components, so I don't see the changes having a huge impact. The only real effect of this cap will be the limit on cooldown reduction you can get on
in a single use (which was still capped at 5 seconds during BFA).
This is subject to change as currently
is both uncapped and not affected by the new scaling model for other "uncapped" abilities, at this point, it's not entirely clear if this is intended or simply overlooked for the moment.
All AoE Target Caps
How Strong is Survival Hunter in Shadowlands Pre-Patch?
In reality, the spec has received no noticeable changes, it is not that likely to become stronger than it is right now, and the main factor that might move it up the rankings is if the pre-patch resulted in some of the specs falling down hard. Even with the loss of corruption, currently available gear combined with a fairly high socket count should make adequate Haste levels fairly accessible.
Currently it suffers from very strong competition among all melee, while possessing a lot fewer "tools" than most other melee classes (Rogue, Warrior, Death Knights, etc) who can pick from multiple specs based on what's best. Survival also brings lower raid utility compared to some of the other classes (Monks, Demon Hunters, Shamans, Paladins) who do bring DPS gain utilities to raid, or some other unique utility.
What are the Big Gameplay Changes for Survival Hunter?
There are no big changes, as the closest thing we get is 1 new abilities.
is only accessible in the 20% execute phase, unlike a number of other 35% execute phase abilities.
How does the Loss of Corruption Affect Survival Hunter in the Shadowlands Pre-Patch?
Because we didn't have any cool Corruption effects like
, the only thing that changed is the loss of some stats. Since it will be haste for the majority of survival players, it will slow down the rotation, so you will hear the wonderful clunk sound of your weapon slightly less frequently.
Best Talent Builds for Survival Hunter in Pre-patch
Overall, this is the same build as what is used right now. Depending on the rest of your available gear, the talents might change a bit, so there is value in simming yourself on raidbots to double-check.
Talent Guide
Best Rotation for Survival Hunter in Pre-Patch
Use
as soon as it's available.
Use
on cooldown.
Use
to keep up the DoT, unless you get a proc of Viper's Venom.
Use
on cooldown, unless you know that you're going to get adds soon.
Use
to dump focus, but try to stay above 10 focus.
Use
, but make sure you're spending focus on
if you're getting a lot of resets.
Rotation Guide
Best Stats for Survival Hunter in Pre-Patch
Currently, Haste still feels gameplay-wise like the best stat, however, Crit and Versatility are a lot higher in value than previously, so it's best to double-check with Top Gear sims.
Stat Priority Guide
Best Azerite Traits for Survival Hunter in Pre-Patch
is now always active.
is still the best Azerite trait for raiding, and the rest of your gear will revolve around picking something with it. Based on the easily available raid gear, it's highly probably that the best combo will be based on
/
/
Azerite Traits Guide
Best Essences for Survival Hunter in Pre-Patch
Currently, a number of Essences look competitive as majors for pure single target and will depend on your Azerite and gear. As always. it's best to check sim results for your character.
Overall some of the top options on sims for pure single target:
/
/
/
/
Essence Guide
All Shadowlands Survival Hunter Changes
For a detailed list of everything changing in Shadowlands for Survival Hunter, check out our full Shadowlands Changes guide.
All Survival Hunter Changes in Shadowlands
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评论
评论来自
Sidna
"The only real effect of this cap will be the limit on cooldown reduction you can get on Wildfire Bomb in a single use."
^The Bomb reduction has been max 5 seconds per 5 target whole BfA
评论来自
Mahjelly
Hunter's Mark - this requires us to spend a GCD when target swapping mid-combat or lose out on damage. Overall it's fairly problematic, as we have 5% damage attached to it, so it's not worth to use it on targets that die quickly which will result in us just losing out on damage, it feels bad and is probably the least welcome change to this class in a while.
Nope.
评论来自
Kendrubbin
Weird, I tried reading this but it just said "keep playing Dragoon in XIV with a companion summoned for a better experience".
评论来自
elbardo
The
Hunter's Mark
's part should be moved from rotational to gimmicky or flavor since they removed the 5% extra damage part.
评论来自
Yuutuu
Really wish they'd just rewind aspects of the spec back to Legion. The bombs and aspect of the eagle were great additions, but I had so much more fun with the spec when mongoose was baseline and charged based, paired with a satisfying finisher in the artifact ability. It created some really fun moments where you'd get perfect charge procs ala 5 buff outlaw rogue rolls and just smack the &*!@ out of something with monster crits. Not even mentioning the awesome mobility of being a melee with a 40 yard charge that reset on kills.
Builder/spender gameplay in the tiny frame of mongoose fury just feels awful imo.
评论来自
Luthlee
I've had this idea about Apect of the Eagle..
Instead of being an activated CD, it could be a stacking buff, with each stack giving 2 seconds or so of ranged combat.
This would still make it "on-demand" of sorts, but maybe a bit more fluent?
Not sure if it should stack automatically with 1/sec up to a max of 15 or be generated by attacks.. I just like the idea of it being less static.
评论来自
SpringsGoat
I just want to know why Survival still can't rame/use Exotic pets. Makes no sense at all. That alone would bring more players to the spec.
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