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评论来自
Xewt
I know a good trick to use when using seal of command. when fighting in pvp you want to conserve mana. so a good way to conserve mana is to use rank 1 when just auto attacking but use rank 5 to judge on a target. so you would put on rank 5 seal of command and judge the target. then put on rank 1 while its on cool down. its also good v.s. shamans. since they purge off buffs like seal of command you can spam rank 1 and deal damage and conserve mana.
评论来自
6861
Slower weapons proc the effect of seal of command more often. faster weapons to do not proc as fast.
The tooltip says 70% but the yellow dmg that shows is always the same as my white damage. very useful seal all around, i like to couple it with judgement of the crusader for the extra holy damage.
评论来自
7718
Slower the weapon the better for SoC. My comments here:
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=6953
are great for SoC. Stick to undead areas to grind and you'll be mowing em down faster than than you can say rumplestilskin 5 times real fast :)
评论来自
9156
The best sealin my opinion for the Paladin. Seal of Command almost doubles the Paladins DPS ability. It doesnt always proc and sometimes can go 15 or 20 seconds without activating at all. But The sheer Dps of this talent is undeniable.
Before i learned about Seal of command i was a 31 holy 10 prot pally. I had to contantly heal during battle so much so that i had to put blessing of wisdom and seal of wisdom on all the time just to get enough mana to heal myself to stay alive. My DPS was in the pits. Seal of righteousness is a joke for dps.
When i respecced and went ret i picked up this talent and have never looked back. i can Crit SoC for 1000 sometimes with my Unstopable Force. Plus this combined with a melee critical hit is serious damage for your oppenent whether in PvP or PvE.
Also a side note get this talent as soon as you can. This benfits extremley with leveling especially at lower levels.
评论来自
h4rr0d
according to GMs, 20secs without SoC proc is bug, and they are working on fixing it
评论来自
Dobbo
Anyone know the proc rate of SoC?
评论来自
TheRaven
Its more then worth going your 1st 16 points into ret. Even if you plan to level as holy. Imp Judgements + Conviction + SoC are vital imo for leveling (my other 8 points are 5/5 benediction, 3/5 Deflection).
Get soc and you willbe in love and level several times faster.
评论来自
Thottbot
Say nothing more then it OWNS
评论来自
Thottbot
Was thinking of using this instead of Righteousness to tank as Righteousnesses dmg drops right off with a fast wep.
1 Question: is the proc rate 'chance on hit' or 'fixed chance per minute'?
ie will I get more procs with a faster weapon?
with more hits and more procs and with both having the chance to activate vengance, i should constantly be @ +15% Physical and Holy damage.
BTW since command is based on physical dmg, does it get 2x the bonus from Vengance? 1st on the physical dmg its based on, and 2nd on the holy dmg itself -that would pwn!
Tho if Command procs per minute, I dunno if +30% dmg is enough to make up for the increased dmg from a slow weapon (+200%) :p
Don't have an active account yet so cant test it :(
My last pally could MH anything. This one will tank anything -just have to work out how to get massive holy dmg without sacrificing sta/def/fr/etc :p
评论来自
Thottbot
most of you forgot that this is HOLY dmg
no armor for that...
and crit of SoC is the same than your weapon crit
so if you have weapon crit like 5 % aha no crit from SoC in futur but!
but critical strike around 25 % that is dangeorus
评论来自
Thottbot
It's who's behind the keyboard
评论来自
Thottbot
Rewrite again: Actually, I keep seeing misunderstandings about SoC, so it is time to put this in order.
First of all, do not walk the Holy or Protection tree if you want DPS. Do not complain about DPS if you walked the Holy and Protection tree because of bad advice about the Retribution tree. There are a lot of old Pallies out there - mostly healbot types - who love to call Ret Pallies "retnoobs" and consider it a matter of dumb pride to not put a single point in there... to their own detriment.
Do not think I am putting down the value of a high critical strike rate, far from it, read below to see how immensely valuable this is for damage.
Here is what most people miss, two things:
1. SoC has higher DPS with slower, higher damage weapons. This also means STR is our first DPS attribute, not agility. We want as high of a crit rate as possible without sacrificing STR. If you are a rogue or druid cat then this is a different story.
2. SoC is based on weapon damage. This means that beefing up white damage beefs up SoC damage. But, a lot of the skills are beefing up white damage and gold damage -- so this is like double damage to SoC.
For instance, Vengeance gives a fifteen percent boost to white and Holy damage. As SoC is based on white damage this means you get nearly a double boost in damage from Vengeance.
Crits in white damage give that boost in gold damage, yet the SoC can crit itself. So that alone magnifies the value of critical strikes.
6% in two handed weapon specialization is 6% for SoC and the white damage.
10% in Holy Damage from Sanctity Aura is sizeable.
Divine Strength means 20% AP increase and this also effects SoC, however if you get that you will have to not get Improved Hammer of Justice which is invaluable in PVP. (We are lacking not in DPS but in control, which effectively translates into DPS.)
评论来自
Thottbot
all the shammys and shammy lovers that have posted here saying they own palas have obviously never fought a reckoning spec pala, lets say your windfury crits all 3 hits, on my next swing you get hit 4 times. reckoning palas in grand marshall/AQ gear are almost unbeatable.
on the posted topic, SoC is not as good as windfury, but palas make up for it with other skills. reckoning pala vs shaman with the same level gear shaman loses, pure and simple
to the shammy who said he feared warriors, thats amusing, thats the class i am most confident about beating, as i can fully heal myself twice in any fight with a warrior, although i would never let myself get below 20% (execute is a killer :P) so in truth i have more than double a warriors HP, and if they dont have uber gear i can beat them using Smites Mighty Hammer from deadmines
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, if we could get away from the pally/shaman thing for a moment, does anyone actually know the percentage chance for Seal of Command to proc?
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm sorry but i use this site for help. I don't understand why people are commenting about shamans under paladins. Who cares who is better. If I want to know about shamans I'll look them up. Stuff like this just pisses me off because it's useless. Who cares about your petty arguments.
Now for my question that I was hoping someone may have commented on already. I'm a lvl 32 pal and in my training screen SoC rank 2 is listed but I cannot find rank 1. Has anybody else had this problem or do I learn rank 1 from a certain NPC?
评论来自
Thottbot
You learn Rank one of SoC from the Ret talent set, not from a trainer.
评论来自
Thottbot
Nobody ever answered the question:
Is the SoC proc set as a chance per hit, or as a certain number of procs per minute? Cuz that would make a HUGE difference when picking a weapon. Thanks.
评论来自
Thottbot
For all those asking about the Procrate,its 6 procs per minute
评论来自
Thottbot
im still lvling my pally so not sure how good soc is on higher lvls, i was half twinked on lvl 39 for few days and was basicly 1 shoting cloth on thos rare 3x crits(hammer, normal 500-600,soc 450, judge 400 wich was kinda overpowered,without vengeance tho, i grabed devotion aura and +to hit, so i also had around 40% dmg reduction.
Usualy i was top on kbs,dmg and healing aswell in bgs
As a rogue for the last two years i loughed at pallys how sucky they are in pvp but few good ones suprised me with efficent use of soc,hammer,repeatenc and judgeing... slaping on a judgement of crusade is also usefull depending who you fight since it gives +dmg and +crit
The most sucky thing about soc is that it can be dodged,blocked,parried, miss and resisted
But anyway in the end im gona end up as a healbot at 70......
And btw soc + wf totem owns hehe
评论来自
Thottbot
i actually dont play pally but that movie was really great! anyways lame with a prot spec.
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命令圣印
命令圣印
等级60
天赋
65法力值
瞬发
需要 圣骑士
使圣骑士在攻击时有一定几率对目标造成与攻击伤害的70%等量的神圣伤害。圣骑士在同一时间内只能激活一种圣印。持续30 sec。
释放这种圣印的能量将对目标造成审判效果,对其立刻造成68 to 73点神圣伤害,若目标昏迷或瘫痪则造成137 to 146点神圣伤害。
(1秒 冷却)
魔法增益
命令圣印
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近战攻击有一定几率造成额外的神圣伤害。
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法术细节
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魔法
GCD目录
普通
成本
65法力值
范围
0码
(自身)
施法时间
瞬发
冷却
n/a
GCD
1.5秒
光环触发几率
100%
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Apply Aura:Proc Trigger Spell
PVP 倍率:1
命令圣印
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Apply Aura:Dummy
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PVP 倍率:1
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Paladin Healing Talents & Builds Guide - WoW Classic Season of Mastery
Paladin Leveling Guide & Best Leveling Spec 1-60 - WoW Classic
Retribution Paladin DPS Talents & Builds Guide - WoW Classic Season of Mastery
Retribution Paladin PvP Guide
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